New Signings?

[macstheman]

TTR, you're completely missing the brilliant point that DCFCA made when he pointed out that fans following clubs in L1 will do so through all circumstances.
They don't have to be in that PL or even the Championship to love and be proud of their club. We played Stevenage this week, they have never experienced the PL and don't need to have been to be excited about the new season. That doesn't mean they lack ambition, quite the opposite their ambition is to support their club despite the PL, despite the European adventures of other clubs. Forest are not better than them, Man U are not better than them nor are Barcelona. I have seen us in all of the top three divisions many times, I have seen us play Real Madrid, win Titles, get relegated, lose key games, win daft games. I reckon I have seen more than most footie fans have but I am looking forward to this season no less than if we were in the Prem and that doesn't make me unambitious! If I never see us in the PL again it won't bother me one iota, I want us to win every match this season, we won't of course but the PL is nowt compared to the joy I see on our fans faces and the faces of every clubs fans when the ref blows his whistle to start the game!
Good luck in the PL but I am genuinely not jealous, roll on Oxford is what I say!!

[Trickytreesreds]

TTR, you're completely missing the brilliant point that DCFCA made when he pointed out that fans following clubs in L1 will do so through all circumstances.
They don't have to be in that PL or even the Championship to love and be proud of their club. We played Stevenage this week, they have never experienced the PL and don't need to have been to be excited about the new season. That doesn't mean they lack ambition, quite the opposite their ambition is to support their club despite the PL, despite the European adventures of other clubs. Forest are not better than them, Man U are not better than them nor are Barcelona. I have seen us in all of the top three divisions many times, I have seen us play Real Madrid, win Titles, get relegated, lose key games, win daft games. I reckon I have seen more than most footie fans have but I am looking forward to this season no less than if we were in the Prem and that doesn't make me unambitious! If I never see us in the PL again it won't bother me one iota, I want us to win every match this season, we won't of course but the PL is nowt compared to the joy I see on our fans faces and the faces of every clubs fans when the ref blows his whistle to start the game!
Good luck in the PL but I am genuinely not jealous, roll on Oxford is what I say!!

I didn't miss the point at all.
DCFCA, is trying to say, being in the top flight doesn't matter for many reasons.
True, it does and it doesn't.
You still watch football at any level. My son, plays a high level of amateur football, a busted knee kept him there.
But even his club, strives to be better and would grasp promotion in a heart beat.
Any club and its supporters wants to be the best it can be.
To even imply that being lg 1 is not making an iota of difference to being Prem league is bollox.
DCFC would love to reverse the situation, MM tried many ways to achieve it. Yes he ****ed it up, but boy were Derby fans lapping it up at the times.

My dear mate Stenson, was very good at pointing this out when McClaren nearly pulled out the dream.
We were ****e when you was in the Prem last, wouldn't you have preferred to stay there, or did you dream of swapping places with us?

[Andy_Faber]

I didn't miss the point at all.
DCFCA, is trying to say, being in the top flight doesn't matter for many reasons.
True, it does and it doesn't.
You still watch football at any level. My son, plays a high level of amateur football, a busted knee kept him there.
But even his club, strives to be better and would grasp promotion in a heart beat.
Any club and its supporters wants to be the best it can be.
To even imply that being lg 1 is not making an iota of difference to being Prem league is bollox.
DCFC would love to reverse the situation, MM tried many ways to achieve it. Yes he ****ed it up, but boy were Derby fans lapping it up at the times.

My dear mate Stenson, was very good at pointing this out when McClaren nearly pulled out the dream.
We were ****e when you was in the Prem last, wouldn't you have preferred to stay there, or did you dream of swapping places with us?

Just one point. Despite our many and varied disagreements I haven’t and wouldn’t (in fact not sure I could) ‘slapped rA down’

[swaledale]

I didn't miss the point at all.
DCFCA, is trying to say, being in the top flight doesn't matter for many reasons.
True, it does and it doesn't.
You still watch football at any level. My son, plays a high level of amateur football, a busted knee kept him there.
But even his club, strives to be better and would grasp promotion in a heart beat.
Any club and its supporters wants to be the best it can be.
To even imply that being lg 1 is not making an iota of difference to being Prem league is bollox.
DCFC would love to reverse the situation, MM tried many ways to achieve it. Yes he ****ed it up, but boy were Derby fans lapping it up at the times.

My dear mate Stenson, was very good at pointing this out when McClaren nearly pulled out the dream.
We were ****e when you was in the Prem last, wouldn't you have preferred to stay there, or did you dream of swapping places with us?

But that is not really what you were saying is it? You were implying that being happy to see the club in league 1 was in your eyes akin to the everybody gets medals at school sports days, you were saying that being happy to have a club to watch wasn't an ambition, but it bloody was for rams fans until a few weeks ago.

Yes if we had beaten Villa and Mel's gamble had got us to the prem, there would indeed been a lot of excited Rams fans - I and no doubt a few on this Forum would ahve been to an extent. But also the realism that in this age just getting to the prem is not even half the battle, its being able to sustain the cost of staying in the prem, yes the financial rewards are big, but so are the transfer fees and wages required to do it long term.