Do we need creators or goal scorers ?

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From the best manager we've ever had, obviously.

Sinkov, I can't remember Harry Potts quoting fine margins, work in progress, but there again it is a long time since he was the best manager Burnley FC have every had.

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Sinkov, I can't remember Harry Potts quoting fine margins, work in progress, but there again it is a long time since he was the best manager Burnley FC have every had.

Harry, God bless him, took us from 6th in D1 to 1st in D1. Credit to him for that, but it was a level playing field financially, and we had arguably the best scouting and youth development set up in the country. Sean took us from midtable in the Championship into the PL and Europe, operating under enormous financial constraints and without any functioning youth development programme to assist him.

I'm not even convinced that Klopp or Pep could have done what Dyche did, never mind Harry.

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Harry, God bless him, took us from 6th in D1 to 1st in D1. Credit to him for that, but it was a level playing field financially, and we had arguably the best scouting and youth development set up in the country. Sean took us from midtable in the Championship into the PL and Europe, operating under enormous financial constraints and without any functioning youth development programme to assist him.

I'm not even convinced that Klopp or Pep could have done what Dyche did, never mind Harry.

I need to point out that Harry took us into the "European Cup" which is now the champions league, Sean never did scale that high. While Sean had Garlick to contend with financial hardship. poor old Harry had to contend with Bob Lord.

I am not sure who had the biggest burden to be honest. However I don't think Sean would have survived nine year under Bob Lord.

In comparison Harry did inherit a good squad of players assembled by Allan Brown whereas the one inherited by Sean from Eddie Howe was not as good.

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I need to point out that Harry took us into the "European Cup" which is now the champions league, Sean never did scale that high. While Sean had Garlick to contend with financial hardship. poor old Harry had to contend with Bob Lord.

I am not sure who had the biggest burden to be honest. However I don't think Sean would have survived nine year under Bob Lord.

In comparison Harry did inherit a good squad of players assembled by Allan Brown whereas the one inherited by Sean from Eddie Howe was not as good.

Both really good managers who had to contend with Chairmen with differing views, however, both managers just got on with the job and were also instrumental in enabling the Board to improve the infrastructure of the club.
It was a strange thing when Harry was replaced as manager and was moved 'upstairs' into a job that he thoroughly disliked because it was non-job! I think that this was just a ploy to ease him out because he packed in after two seasons.
Allan Brown, Harry Potts and Sean Dyche are all managers in my time who I shall remember with great affection and I do not consider any better than the other.

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Both really good managers who had to contend with Chairmen with differing views, however, both managers just got on with the job and were also instrumental in enabling the Board to improve the infrastructure of the club.
It was a strange thing when Harry was replaced as manager and was moved 'upstairs' into a job that he thoroughly disliked because it was non-job! I think that this was just a ploy to ease him out because he packed in after two seasons.
Allan Brown, Harry Potts and Sean Dyche are all managers in my time who I shall remember with great affection and I do not consider any better than the other.

Sub, you appear to be the same era as myself, having seen the best football ever produced by a Burnley team.

I have to agree that replacing Harry Potts with Jimmy Adamson was the second biggest mistake Bob Lord every made, the first was selling Jimmy Mcilroy. While selling Jimmy Mac may have been good from a business side it certainly lost the club many supporters.

As an aside it was rumoured that Jimmy Adamson was offered the England managers job when Walter Winterbottom left, before it was offered to Alf Ramsey. If this was so I often wondered if England would have won the world cup if Adamson had been the England manager.

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Sub, you appear to be the same era as myself, having seen the best football ever produced by a Burnley team.

I have to agree that replacing Harry Potts with Jimmy Adamson was the second biggest mistake Bob Lord every made, the first was selling Jimmy Mcilroy. While selling Jimmy Mac may have been good from a business side it certainly lost the club many supporters.

As an aside it was rumoured that Jimmy Adamson was offered the England managers job when Walter Winterbottom left, before it was offered to Alf Ramsey. If this was so I often wondered if England would have won the world cup if Adamson had been the England manager.

Jimmy Adamson was indeed offered the England job before Alf Ramsey and it would be pure conjecture as to whether or not we would have won the World Cup, however, Sir Alf got the job and won, so good luck to him.
Jimmy Adamson had much to contend with in his career as a player and manager and much of it stemmed from his upbringing in Ashington and his family. I am not prepared to say any more than that, however, David Thomas does refer to the odd things in his book about Jimmy Adamson.

Of course, the biggest problem is that most fans think that everything is 'rosey' between players at a club, however, this is rarely the case and managers have to deal with it all the time, just as in any other job. That's life!

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Jimmy Adamson was indeed offered the England job before Alf Ramsey and it would be pure conjecture as to whether or not we would have won the World Cup, however, Sir Alf got the job and won, so good luck to him.
Jimmy Adamson had much to contend with in his career as a player and manager and much of it stemmed from his upbringing in Ashington and his family. I am not prepared to say any more than that, however, David Thomas does refer to the odd things in his book about Jimmy Adamson.

Of course, the biggest problem is that most fans think that everything is 'rosey' between players at a club, however, this is rarely the case and managers have to deal with it all the time, just as in any other job. That's life!

Jimmy Adamson is a legend in my book and I will not have a spurious word said against him.