Getting Nemane Right

[matt_magpie]

I think the main issue is Wingback is just a very hard position to play, it’s the equivalent to having a tough tackling midfielder who’s also very creative. I get why we play them as it gives us 3 central mids whilst retaining the width but finding a wingback that can do everything is very hard. Both Nemane and Chicksen have certainly made a fist of it though and the more they play it and more they properly get coached on the position there’s no reason why they can’t be successful.

[the_anticlough]

Interesting points AC but non address it's very difficult to give everyone enough opportunities to find confidence or form, there are always an example or examples where players don't do enough or aren't given enough chances to impress.

1) Didn't Nemane play as a traditional winger rather than a wing back for them?

I remember the interview and the NEP article saying he could play wing-back. And that's the way it was received on here too. The rest of what I listed is checkable...

He first appeared as wing-back in our first home game for 1 half only and was hardly ever seen there again

It's interesting to me....if Nemane proves himself as a wing-back for us this season, it will mean a few things

- we wasted a year of the player's contract really
- we persevered with an inferior option
- we were pushed into getting somebody better, but he literally pushed us out in the most important game of the season

Add to this to the ordinary play at left wing back last season and I have to change my view that recruitment let IB down. It was the other way around! LW is showing us that. I know it's a small sample size and early days, but he's proven we had serviceable players there all along. All it took was some positivity and bravery to encourage them to do their jobs in full, be brave and get into those advanced positions...
I guess we'll only know about the relative merits of LW and Burchnall in 5-10 years time, but for now it's looking good for our man.

[ncfcog]

Who’s claiming that headline? Superb!

Nice to see someone gat it! I have to give that one to Colin, we all three of us contribute in different ways!

[the_anticlough]

I think the main issue is Wingback is just a very hard position to play, it’s the equivalent to having a tough tackling midfielder who’s also very creative. I get why we play them as it gives us 3 central mids whilst retaining the width but finding a wingback that can do everything is very hard. Both Nemane and Chicksen have certainly made a fist of it though and the more they play it and more they properly get coached on the position there’s no reason why they can’t be successful.

Agree with all of that.
I've been one of those doubting Chicksen could do it - maybe the worst offender. I still have doubts and we'll have to see, but LW is right, it's not just the goals but the fantastic positions he's been taking up. They both deserve a tonne of credit for making this happen.
Chicksen is a player you should dismiss at your peril. He's smart, determined and really professional
- proves Ardley wrong by establishing himself as the top left back at the club
- working with IB to transform himself into a top central defender in a three
Give him a challenge and he'll work like a trojan to succeed. That's what seems to be happening with LW to become a proper wing-back, and who'd bet against him?

[laddo]

I remember the interview and the NEP article saying he could play wing-back. And that's the way it was received on here too. The rest of what I listed is checkable...

He first appeared as wing-back in our first home game for 1 half only and was hardly ever seen there again

It's interesting to me....if Nemane proves himself as a wing-back for us this season, it will mean a few things

- we wasted a year of the player's contract really
- we persevered with an inferior option
- we were pushed into getting somebody better, but he literally pushed us out in the most important game of the season

Add to this to the ordinary play at left wing back last season and I have to change my view that recruitment let IB down. It was the other way around! LW is showing us that. I know it's a small sample size and early days, but he's proven we had serviceable players there all along. All it took was some positivity and bravery to encourage them to do their jobs in full, be brave and get into those advanced positions...
I guess we'll only know about the relative merits of LW and Burchnall in 5-10 years time, but for now it's looking good for our man.

That all may or may not be correct but it's very one sided. You can't get all the decisions as a head coach right especially when it comes to team selection, there are so many varying opinions and suggestions from us fans. Same applies to the recruitment team. You've just got aim to get as many right as possible and certainly more right than wrong. I think both have. If you are go highlight the misses by either, you should also perhaps highlight the hits.

In hindsight IB may to have wasted Nemane not trying him enough as a wing back, some fans don't think he should start in any position, but he got a lot right. He improved a good number of players with his coaching. People will say he didn't play Vincent enough, and didn't get the most out of him. That could be true or that maybe being very kind to the player.

Point is it's easy to highlight the two or three perceived mistakes. Nearly as easy as finding the blame for almost every goal conceded.

[Elite_Pie]

Point is it's easy to highlight the two or three perceived mistakes.

True, just like it's easy to highlight the odd prediction a poster might have got wrong.

Luckily, not many do that.

[CamPie]

True, just like it's easy to highlight the odd prediction a poster might have got wrong.

Luckily, not many do that.

F me - you can't help yourself can you?

[the_anticlough]

That all may or may not be correct but it's very one sided. You can't get all the decisions as a head coach right especially when it comes to team selection, there are so many varying opinions and suggestions from us fans. Same applies to the recruitment team. You've just got aim to get as many right as possible and certainly more right than wrong. I think both have. If you are go highlight the misses by either, you should also perhaps highlight the hits.

In hindsight IB may to have wasted Nemane not trying him enough as a wing back, some fans don't think he should start in any position, but he got a lot right. He improved a good number of players with his coaching. People will say he didn't play Vincent enough, and didn't get the most out of him. That could be true or that maybe being very kind to the player.

Point is it's easy to highlight the two or three perceived mistakes. Nearly as easy as finding the blame for almost every goal conceded.

That post isn't much fun, Laddo. Now I know to look for this guy in the burger queue at Woking.



I do know that IF our current wing-backs maintain their form and we have success, LW and recruitment are going to look like geniuses and the ex-FGR coach not so hot.

[Elite_Pie]

F me - you can't help yourself can you?

Apologies.

It's just that I was getting a loud beeping noise from my hypocrisy meter.

[CamPie]

Apologies.

It's just that I was getting a loud beeping noise from my hypocrisy meter.

As per QLD's notifications - I advise you to turn that off.