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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    I'm sorry but you can't seriously think that employing more police and firemen will improve the economy? I mean maybe very very mildly, but I don't think BMW will build a factory here because of the new bobbies that patrol the area. Mob rule hasn't quite taken over just yet!

    I have asked for an alternative to austerity and the only response is that it should have been lighter. But in reality, the Tory govt since coming into power has year on year spent more than Labour did on the NHS. Also, that pension crisis we have all heard of has cost £32b more since the start of 2009. Welfare has increased by £60b. Incredible isn't it! And as a result of the fiscal boost in 2008/9 (which isn't a tap you can just turn off) the interest payments alone are £45b per year. And all you read is about the £1b cut in police funding...it's an incredibly biased narrative twisted to suit the 'Tory out' brigade.

    Austerity can hinder growth in certain areas, but it's clear that the austerity is very targeted to taper that.

    And you say my perspective makes no sense. it makes absolute sense, the Tory government have had to spend money differently to Labour government due to us living longer, health needs, interest rates, pandemic and more has been funded into welfare. The debt we're in is also relative. It's reasonably high but not as high as France, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Belgium etc.

    I'm not saying they are a brilliant government. In fact the return to sleaze has put me off voting for them in the next election, but I don't see a snippet of evidence to suggest we'd be better off with another party. Both Labour and Tories are centralists and advised by the same people FFS!
    I’d like to see some snippet of evidence that Tories spent more than Labour on the NHS. I genuinely want to see this claim can be validated. I’m intrigued Matt and not trying to catch you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regis80 View Post
    I’d like to see some snippet of evidence that Tories spent more than Labour on the NHS. I genuinely want to see this claim can be validated. I’m intrigued Matt and not trying to catch you out.
    Why don’t you take a look. It’s very easily obtained online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    Why don’t you take a look. It’s very easily obtained online.
    I was expecting you to actually send me a link but now i be must admit, it’s like one of those tory lies you’ve just told us. I’d like to see the evidence Matt.

    I wanted to see where you obtained the figures from to back your claim. Did the amount Tories spend include everything since the start of the Pandemic? Because that cost a fortune. Remember how well equipped our NHS was for that? Flattened the curve so the NHS can cope.
    Based on your past posts you must be some secret agent or something trying to smear labour and deceive people to think the tories spent more. I don’t buy that, and i can tell con a mile off.

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    Okay Matt, a little bit of digging and all I can find was this link https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...rtured-the-nhs and it reference to IFS about the spend under each party. It’s goes upto 2018 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regis80 View Post
    Okay Matt, a little bit of digging and all I can find was this link https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...rtured-the-nhs and it reference to IFS about the spend under each party. It’s goes upto 2018 though.

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