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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbag View Post
    Interesting listen .Some might argue that these so called taps/interceptions aren't real but just faked Ukrainian propaganda but current events and data from other sources certainly seem to back up what they are saying.

    Despite all of Putin's boasting, Russian forces seem to either consist of Wagner Group thugs or else young conscripts with poor equipment and poor leadership. Small wonder morale is so poor. The Ukrainians are highly motivated because it is their land they are fighting for and now they have the weaponry to take the initiative. Too many of the Russian forces do not have the necessary motivation to be there so the West needs to ramp up their support now as pressure on Putin at home increases. Just hope that when all this is finally over he is held responsible for his actions and Ukraine gets the reparations and justices it deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    Interesting listen .Some might argue that these so called taps/interceptions aren't real but just faked Ukrainian propaganda but current events and data from other sources certainly seem to back up what they are saying.
    Propaganda for sure from both sides and I wouldn't believe either side exclusively. However this confirms what I have been hearing for a while now (at least a week).
    Until the news blackout is finished and journalists are back on the front line, it shall remain unverified.
    But the actions on the ground seem to back it up and the fact that around 25,000 Russian troops are most likely isolated near Kherson, would make sense.
    As a Russian solider down there, it must be difficult as many would have family, friends and relatives in that area. Surrender or ceasefire has to be on the way.

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