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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    How do you seeing it resolving Andy?

    How's the band?
    It’s hard to see a way out of this. Russia sees Nato expansionism into Ukraine as existential threat (which I agree with), so they’re not going to back down. They will do whatever it takes to achieve their objectives. And the Russian people will be right peeved if they don’t take Odessa as well.

    On the other hand, the Americans don’t at all want to back down either, despite Ukraine not being of any significant geopolitical strategic importance to them. They’ll definitely be up to more nefarious acts (like blowing up the Nordstream pipelines) to escalate this conflict. Fortunately it seems that Europe is almost run out of any significant support they can give Kiev, not only because European economies are quickly going down the toilet, but also because they just don’t have much more hardware they can provide.

    We’ll see if Russia’s troop surge works in Ukraine, just as America’s worked in in Iraq. I don’t see Moscow using nuclear weapons - they has a no first use policy. And I think the media tends to misrepresent Putin’s so called nuclear threats. If you read the text of his speech he said that (paraphrasing), ‘those who dream of using nuclear weapons against us, we have such weapons too and it can blow right back at you.’ This was directed at many western and Ukrainian politicians that have threatened the use of nuclear weapons against Russia, including Zalensky who, a few weeks ago, called for NATO to conduct a preemptive strike against Russia - which our media has ignored.

    While I’m hesitant to make predictions I think ultimately America will back down as they have far less interest in Ukraine than Russia does. But it is extremely profitable. It’ll be a while before we get there, but eventually all things come to an end.

    Edit: I’m with a new band now... just gearing up to do our first gigs shortly.

    Edit 2: In contrast to Russia having a ‘no first use’ policy on nuclear weapons, America used to as well, but removed it in April - which also hasn’t been reported much by our media.
    Last edited by andy6025; 01-10-2022 at 12:42 PM.

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