O/T:- Ukraine [Incorporating 'Congrats to Russia' thread]

[drillerpie]

For anyone who is interested, here is some more tragicomic Russian state TV.

So far I think the Jewish presidentof Ukraine, Joe Biden, the state of Israel, the EU, and Sanna Marin have all been identified as Nazis.

https://youtu.be/Oh2nnejPN7g

Meanwhile in Russia, at the recent annexation party in Moscow there was a guest appearance by a priest, who called for holy war against the west while cosplaying Himmler. Just saying.

https://youtu.be/US1QegWt4wc

This is the final stage of a deliberate and long-term strategy in domestic Russian propaganda to equate anything and anyone who doesn't let Russia do what it wants to Nazis.

This message has been strongly reinforced by state TV and even the school curriculum for years now. It's the perfect way to build support for a war - train the nation to hate Nazis, tell them where the Nazis are, invade.

It also stops people asking questions about simarities between the behaviour of the Russian federation and...you know what.

This is all meant for the domestic audience, but the fact that some people outside of Russia fall for it is probably seen as a bonus.

[Old_pie]

For anyone who is interested, here is some more tragicomic Russian state TV.

So far I think the Jewish presidentof Ukraine, Joe Biden, the state of Israel, the EU, and Sanna Marin have all been identified as Nazis.

https://youtu.be/Oh2nnejPN7g

Meanwhile in Russia, at the recent annexation party in Moscow there was a guest appearance by a priest, who called for holy war against the west while cosplaying Himmler. Just saying.

https://youtu.be/US1QegWt4wc

This is the final stage of a deliberate and long-term strategy in domestic Russian propaganda to equate anything and anyone who doesn't let Russia do what it wants to Nazis.

This message has been strongly reinforced by state TV and even the school curriculum for years now. It's the perfect way to build support for a war - train the nation to hate Nazis, tell them where the Nazis are, invade.

It also stops people asking questions about simarities between the behaviour of the Russian federation and...you know what.

This is all meant for the domestic audience, but the fact that some people outside of Russia fall for it is probably seen as a bonus.

Well those that do ask questions, even powerful businessmen, seem to fall out of windows or get shot before they get that far. Some seem to forget that doesn't happen in other places where critical comment can be made from the security of their NATO protected and democratic country.

No doubt there are those who view Stalin as a saviour, regret the knocking down of the Berlin wall and wish to see the re-establishment of the Soviet Union and tanks rolling into Hungary, Czeckoslakia etc. They could even reach Finland, Sweden and if global warming is reversed, Canada. хорошее здоровье comrades. It's a good job Notts are black and white. Imagine the confusion being the other lot

[i961pie]

For anyone who is interested, here is some more tragicomic Russian state TV.

So far I think the Jewish presidentof Ukraine, Joe Biden, the state of Israel, the EU, and Sanna Marin have all been identified as Nazis.

https://youtu.be/Oh2nnejPN7g

Meanwhile in Russia, at the recent annexation party in Moscow there was a guest appearance by a priest, who called for holy war against the west while cosplaying Himmler. Just saying.

https://youtu.be/US1QegWt4wc

This is the final stage of a deliberate and long-term strategy in domestic Russian propaganda to equate anything and anyone who doesn't let Russia do what it wants to Nazis.

This message has been strongly reinforced by state TV and even the school curriculum for years now. It's the perfect way to build support for a war - train the nation to hate Nazis, tell them where the Nazis are, invade.

It also stops people asking questions about simarities between the behaviour of the Russian federation and...you know what.

This is all meant for the domestic audience, but the fact that some people outside of Russia fall for it is probably seen as a bonus.

A certain Canadian chap falls into your last sentence.

[andy6025]

Driller. I do indeed think that people ought to hate Nazis. Anyone that thinks otherwise should give their head a shake.

Cool links though. There are some more though that you might have overlooked:

Here’s Zalensky standing in a cathedral and channeling Darth Vader to tell us that the Lorde and heavenly light is on his side in fighting the hordes of evil, and that Christ has risen for him, for God lives in Kiev. It’s some pretty well manicured propaganda. Do you think the CIA helped him with it?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_con...ature=emb_logo

And as for Ukraine’s very serious Nazi problem, you don’t have to take Putin’s word for it, here’s a whole slew of western sources saying the same thing.

USA Today tells us that Ukraine’s militias are founded and manned by white supremacist nazis:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...002/?gnt-cfr=1

Or the Jerusalem Post reporting on a George Washington University study that the US, UK, Germany, France, Canada and Poland are arming and training Nazis both in Ukraine as well as abroad:

https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/western...ort-682411/amp

Or the Time of Israeli denouncing the annual Ukrainian marches in support of Ukrainian Nazi collaborator Stephen Bandera. Notice in the article they quote Ukrainian Pravda as writing: “Nationalism is our religion and Bandera is our prophet”:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundre...-collaborator/

Or how The Nation reports that neo-nazis are on the march in Ukraine:

https://www.thenation.com/article/po...right-ukraine/

Or the West Point Institute for Counter Terrorism showing that Ukraine has become a focal point and destination for far right Nazis from America and all over Europe:

https://ctc.usma.edu/wp-content/uplo...NEL-042020.pdf

Or here’s the OSCE writing about Ukrainian war crimes against the civilian populations in the Donbas by the Ukrainian military and Ukrainian Nazi groups like Right Sector. Here’s a gruesome part of the report on the treatment of prisoners:

*The prisoners were electrocuted, beaten cruelly and for multiple days in a row with different objects (iron bars, baseball bats, sticks, rifle butts, bayonet knives, rubber batons).
Techniques widely used by the Ukrainian armed forces and security forces include waterboarding, strangling with a ‘Banderist garrotte’ and other types of strangling.
In some cases prisoners, for the purposes of intimidation, were sent to minefields and run over with military vehicles, which led to their death.
Other torture methods used by the Ukrainian armed forces and security forces include bone-crashing, stabbing and cutting with a knife, branding with red-hot objects, shooting different body parts with small arms.
The prisoners taken captive by the Ukrainian armed forces and security forces are kept for days at freezing temperatures, with no access to food or medical assistance, and are often forced to take psychotropic substances that cause agony.
An absolute majority of prisoners are put through mock firing squads and suffer death and rape threats to their families.
Many of those tortured are not members of the self-defense forces of the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR).*

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf

Or another report from the OSCE in which they point to marches and violent “progroms” by ultra right Nazis, sometimes in coordination with Ukrainian police!

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/6/0/394781.pdf

Here’s The Guardian telling us about the role of ultra right Ukrainian Nazis in overthrowing the democratically elected government and their power post-coup:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...-a-photo-essay

And here’s two investigative reports on BBC Newsnight about Nazi militias in Ukraine, destroying Russian owned shops, intimidating officials, controlling the streets and doing all kinds of other awful things:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hE6b4ao8gAQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sEKQsnRGv7s&t=2s

As the fictitious character Indians Jones once rightfully said, “I hate Nazis!”

[i961pie]

I would give it a rest Andy, no one agrees with your Kremlin propaganda nonsense😴😴