TS

[howdydoo]

Wrong information Brin. Since he's been in control of the club he's put sponsorship cash in which he doesn't want back. (technically he will want a return on his investment).
He's also put loans in which he will want backat some stage or write the debt off which some chairmen have done.
Nothing whatsoever to do with the rent.

Bob on.

[Godsend.F.C.]

You can check the financials and see what rent has been paid since 2009. It’s clear what ‘happens’ when the loan has been paid. If RUFC remain a sustainable business and continue to pay rent, RU Estates will own the stadium. Maybe they’ll take another loan out and revamp/expand the stadium. It’s good business.

I’ve repeatedly said it from day one. Tony didn’t pick up the phone and ask to take over the club. He supports, or did, another local club. He was approached.

I’ve never thought for one minute he did it for the love of the club. He did it to make money.

As things stand he’s put in his time, expertise and money. That’s helped the football club enjoy one of the best periods in it’s history. We’re there plenty of sweeteners and could there be a massive windfall for the Stewart’s? Yep, probably.

What’s not to like on the footballing side if you think back 15 years? Quite a lot if you read social media or this messageboard.

Bonkers

Also Bob on.
He's a successful businesman and eventually will want a return. RUFC is part of his empire and yes he was approached, more than once to take the club on. Maybe, just maybe he could see long term investment with a profit.
Easiest way to empty your pockets - buy a football club. (a small northern town one with a small fan base.
Some people should actually realise what it costs to operate a football club and the liabilities it has, not everything is 'black and white'.

[Townerslovechild]

Stop taking sense,it's heresy on here.

[MillerBill]

Also Bob on.
He's a successful businesman and eventually will want a return. RUFC is part of his empire and yes he was approached, more than once to take the club on. Maybe, just maybe he could see long term investment with a profit.
Easiest way to empty your pockets - buy a football club. (a small northern town one with a small fan base.
Some people should actually realise what it costs to operate a football club and the liabilities it has, not everything is 'black and white'.

You say small fan base but compared to Blackpool,Blackburn ,Preston .Wigan and Luton they aren't a great deal different in numbers to us.Apart from Luton, they can all accomodate far bigger away fans than us.

[MILLERSTALE]

You say small fan base but compared to Blackpool,Blackburn ,Preston .Wigan and Luton they aren't a great deal different in numbers to us.Apart from Luton, they can all accomodate far bigger away fans than us.

Apart from Luton all the others have significantly higher gates than us Blackburn around 16,000 which is at least 60% higher than ours , so yes we are way behind these clubs ?

[welovebooth]

I was going to keep out of this, but I can't let this one pass by.

It's not a chairman's job to fund a business. It's his job to lead the business in a manner that meets its objectives and protects and serves the interest of its shareholders.

In this case, the effective owner of the business is also TS. The objectives that he has set are to keep the club financially stable and to achieve all it can through the revenue it generates and the additional funding he provides.

Under the stewardship of TS, the club has achieved a degree of stability and success that is unprecedented in over the previous thirty years and arguably longer.

I get that people want more. I do. But to demand more or expect more shows an unrealistic and, frankly, disgraceful sense of entitlement.

We really should reflect on the turmoil that we used to face and which, sadly, clubs like Bury no longer face.

Agree with all you say some fans have ambition some fans are happy with what we have

But I disagree football is totally different to most clubs.

Even more so a club the size off rotherham

We don't have the fan base or the glamour to be self sufficient.

So it is his Job to underwrite/fund the extra the club needs.

With regards to people happy been a yo yo club.

They tell like promotion is guaranteed when we go down.

Paul Warne has left now so it's even less guaranteed.

Than what happens 3-5 years in league 1.. 5-7k attendances.

[MillerBill]

Apart from Luton all the others have significantly higher gates than us Blackburn around 16,000 which is at least 60% higher than ours , so yes we are way behind these clubs ?

16,000? We've just played 'em and they had 12,000 there.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

16,000? We've just played 'em and they had 12,000 there.

Latest figures

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/c...ip/attendances

[MillerBill]

Latest figures

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/c...ip/attendances

It,s interesting that.I have noticed we have 85% capacity,where we are in the top six.Most of our matches, there are scattered seats left unsold and people who want to go have to sit separarely and a family of four would be discouraged.Had we built the stadium with 16k capacity like Donny's I'm sure we would have had bigger crowds.

[Godsend.F.C.]

You say small fan base but compared to Blackpool,Blackburn ,Preston .Wigan and Luton they aren't a great deal different in numbers to us.Apart from Luton, they can all accomodate far bigger away fans than us.

Not sure you can compare like for like with the above clubs apart from Luton Town.
Blackpool are owned by an investment banker that used to be but no longer based in Hong Kong.
Blackburn are still owned by the Venkys and a club that previously ran up debts of well over £100m.
PNE not too long ago were £8m in the red, fortunately they had Trevor Hemmings as owner, sadly TH passed away last year and I don't know who owns them.
Wigan have also recently had financial problems and have managed to overcome them.

Luton Town is the stand out one.