McClean whinging again.

[howdydoo]

hmmmm ....

looked this up:

sanctimonious ****


Someone (usually John2) who sees themselves in a position of superiority and once they have made up their mind don't listen to any rational argument, but always have a personally objectifying explanation at the ready for why one is disagreeing or complaining.

A virtue signalling and pretentious individual who thinks they are above everyone else.

A person (or conglomerate of two persons who are virtually indistinguishable as individuals) who is so far up his or her own (or their own collective) arsehole their own mother wants to run them down. (I bet she does as well)





Give it a rest FFS. Brin doesn't need anyone to defend him but, unlike you, he does regularly contribute and helps keep this message board active. He's not perfect but he is popular on here.


So be a good lad and f@ck off. The vast majority do not care what you have to say.

So much so, rather than Brin stepping down as a mod because YOU think he should, why don't you stop posting here again because the vast MAJORITY on here, would like that better?

We could put it to the vote. The mods could agree to follow the result.

1. Brin steps down as a mod and keeps posting or
2. John2 has his account permanently deleted.


Grow up.

[frogmiller]

[John2]

hmmmm ....

looked this up:

sanctimonious ****


Someone (usually John2) who sees themselves in a position of superiority and once they have made up their mind don't listen to any rational argument, but always have a personally objectifying explanation at the ready for why one is disagreeing or complaining.

A virtue signalling and pretentious individual who thinks they are above everyone else.

A person (or conglomerate of two persons who are virtually indistinguishable as individuals) who is so far up his or her own (or their own collective) arsehole their own mother wants to run them down. (I bet she does as well)





Give it a rest FFS. Brin doesn't need anyone to defend him but, unlike you, he does regularly contribute and helps keep this message board active. He's not perfect but he is popular on here.


So be a good lad and f@ck off. The vast majority do not care what you have to say.

So much so, rather than Brin stepping down as a mod because YOU think he should, why don't you stop posting here again because the vast MAJORITY on here, would like that better?

We could put it to the vote. The mods could agree to follow the result.

1. Brin steps down as a mod and keeps posting or
2. John2 has his account permanently deleted.


Grow up.

lol, I appreciate the effort you've gone to write this, it has made me smile.

I don't use MillersMad as a popularity contest, you must all have realised I've never made being popular something I've prioritised on here. I have had some fascinating conversations and insights though and I am grateful for the interactions I get to have.

Your reaction here is a bit dramatic though don't you think? You're literally calling for people expressing minority opinions to be banned. Ironic given the free speech context of the discussion. A rather fascist tone. Maybe fascism is in the majority here?

I do worry that some people get way too emotionally invested. It's just a forum. It's never worth getting worked up about the text that someone else has written. We do all support the same team and have more in common than divides us.

Believe it or not, I'm actually a lot more likeable and less sanctimonious in "real life".

[howdydoo]

lol, I appreciate the effort you've gone to write this, it has made me smile.

I don't use MillersMad as a popularity contest, you must all have realised I've never made being popular something I've prioritised on here. I have had some fascinating conversations and insights though and I am grateful for the interactions I get to have.

Your reaction here is a bit dramatic though don't you think? You're literally calling for people expressing minority opinions to be banned. Ironic given the free speech context of the discussion. A rather fascist tone. Maybe fascism is in the majority here?

I do worry that some people get way too emotionally invested. It's just a forum. It's never worth getting worked up about the text that someone else has written. We do all support the same team and have more in common than divides us.

Believe it or not, I'm actually a lot more likeable and less sanctimonious in "real life".

Stop trawling through old posts simply to trip up a retired bloke in a cardy then and be a bit nicer to Vaterland? Go and bait the really super rich and powerful people in the world who are brainwashing EVERYONE and don't be shocked if all this is simulation in the end.

A 50/50 possibility, so I am led to believe. Work that out?

Enjoy the hedonism. Just make sure it isn't with yourself.

[John2]

Stop trawling through old posts simply to trip up a retired bloke in a cardy then and be a bit nicer to Vaterland? Go and bait the really super rich and powerful people in the world who are brainwashing EVERYONE and don't be shocked if all this is simulation in the end.

A 50/50 possibility, so I am led to believe. Work that out?

Enjoy the hedonism. Just make sure it isn't with yourself.

An interesting point. In the last few years, I have actually come to believe it is overwhelmingly probable that we live in a simulation.

Why so worried about Vaterland, he's a big boy. I'm the one getting all the aggression on here, yet all I'm doing is giving a robust critique.

[howdydoo]

An interesting point. In the last few years, I have actually come to believe it is overwhelmingly probable that we live in a simulation.

Why so worried about Vaterland, he's a big boy. I'm the one getting all the aggression on here, yet all I'm doing is giving a robust critique.

Stop griping about aggression. You're behind a keyboard FFS. You're a big girl now.

[howdydoo]

An interesting point. In the last few years, I have actually come to believe it is overwhelmingly probable that we live in a simulation.

Why so worried about Vaterland, he's a big boy. I'm the one getting all the aggression on here, yet all I'm doing is giving a robust critique.

....... and I have sneaking suspicion you might be right about simulation.

[Heliosphan]

I don't use MillersMad as a popularity contest, you must all have realised I've never made being popular something I've prioritised on here. I have had some fascinating conversations and insights though and I am grateful for the interactions I get to have.

No you don't use it to be popular. You use it to to boost your ego and pull people down. You must literally scour the board daily for OT posts and if there's any chance to antagonise someone then you do so. You're subtle in how you do it and hide it within the premise of debate, but that's what you do.

Your reaction here is a bit dramatic though don't you think? You're literally calling for people expressing minority opinions to be banned. Ironic given the free speech context of the discussion. A rather fascist tone. Maybe fascism is in the majority here?

How have you misunderstood a point which was so explicit? He doesn't want to ban people expressing minority opinions, so stop wittering on about fascism. He wants to ban YOU because you're a self-serving, wretch of a human being who gets his kicks out of demeaning others.

I do worry that some people get way too emotionally invested. It's just a forum. It's never worth getting worked up about the text that someone else has written. We do all support the same team and have more in common than divides us.

Just a forum he says. This from someone going to the trouble of digging up old posts and getting all concerned that someone might abuse their power as a mod! Also someone who simply cannot avoid having the last word in any debate. You must worry that people will think you 'lost ' the debate if you don't respond. That just wouldn't do for your online persona would it John. It's just a forum though.

Believe it or not, I'm actually a lot more likeable and less sanctimonious in "real life".

Even admits he's sanctimonious. I would also add narcissistic to that as well. There's definitely some kind of personality disorder going on.

[John2]

No you don't use it to be popular. You use it to to boost your ego and pull people down. You must literally scour the board daily for OT posts and if there's any chance to antagonise someone then you do so. You're subtle in how you do it and hide it within the premise of debate, but that's what you do.

Hmm, I'm unsure what my motivations are, but I'll try to be honest. I don't think I do it for ego, because I evidently care very little what people think of my persona here. Yes, my posts antagonise, but I think my primary motivation is for the debate, to expose people to other perspectives, and a genuine curiosity to how people react and handle having their perspectives challenged in a reasoned way.

Human nature gets in the way sometimes, and I invariably rub some people the wrong way, and I know I'm doing it. However, I only ever do that when I think the person is "fair game", in the sense that they've been quite abrasive, rude, or ignorant. Maybe it serves my ego, but I don't think that's why I post.

I think a way that I'm quite different from people who post on here is I never take it to heart. I can honestly say I never get worked up. I barely even give millersmad a second thought until I pop back into it from time to time when I have a little moment.

I do of course check the OT threads, and contribute where I think there is interesting (to me) discussion to be had. I do that with on topic threads too, I just feel I have less to contribute there other than adding how good I thought Victor was again.

So you're right, I do go on threads that interest me to comment on them, but that's a bit of a redundant statement, because that's what we all do, because that's what a forum is.

(you're a) wretch of a human being who gets his kicks out of demeaning others.

That's a bit harsh, but it's water off a duck's back! I don't think it's fair to say I demean others.

I do "know what I'm doing", but I don't demean people. I interact robustly with people who are looking to engage, and I can see how that could come across. But I am quite sincere in my beliefs, and I do try to be fair, and I do respect people.

Just a forum he says. This from someone going to the trouble of digging up old posts and getting all concerned that someone might abuse their power as a mod! Also someone who simply cannot avoid having the last word in any debate. You must worry that people will think you 'lost ' the debate if you don't respond. That just wouldn't do for your online persona would it John. It's just a forum though.

Let me explain the search feature. It's very easy to use. You click on Advanced search, I typed the word "delete", and then the user "john2" and I knew I would find the thread in question. It literally took about 5 seconds.

I do like to have the last word. Maybe it's narcissism, who knows? I must admit, as you can say many things about me, but I do like to be honest... I sometimes think "do I really need to do this last reply", and then I think "yeah, why not, I've come this far". You can call it many things, determination, stubbornness, pig-headed. Maybe narcissistic in the context of this forum. Probably all fair descriptors.

You might not believe me, but I can honestly say I never make the last post because I'm worried I've lost the debate. Heck, with my level of narcissism, I come away from every post feeling like I've been shooting fish in a barrel. Just kidding there.

Even admits he's sanctimonious. I would also add narcissistic to that as well. There's definitely some kind of personality disorder going on.

Personality disorder . Quite a strong diagnosis from a few paragraphs of content on a football message board per week! But hey, maybe!

For the record, I don't think of myself above anyone at all. I think as humans we are all equal. I feel very lucky to have access to the opportunities, experiences and lifestyle that I do. I must admit I often feel like I have a better understanding of certain issues than people I debate with, but that is what it is. It's not arrogant or belittling if it's true. The same is true in reverse, most here are way more knowledgeable about football than me, so I don't express strong opinions and accept that reality.

[Heliosphan]

John, thanks for the honest response. It was an interesting read.