O/T Trussed in Leader gone

[animallittle3]

Starmer /Labour will set a company upp called Great British Energy.
Intention is to go down the 'Green route' quicker. Investing in Wind, Solar, Hydrogen, Nuclear, Green Steel and Carbon Capture. Insulate is 19m homes, repeal Trade Union Act from 2016. (which won't go down well in certain areas)
Plenty of other things they want to bring in.
He talks the talk whether he can deliver is something different.
Don't expect a manifesto before an election is called late next year or even 2024.

I think Starmer has played a very canny game during his time so far .

He's gone with letting the Tories implode all by themselves and as Napoleon said " never interrupt your enemy whilst he's making mistakes " .

I think he knew all too well with Johnson's character he'd eventually blow himself up .

My gut says he knew Brexit would eventually divide the Tory Party too like it's divided everything else in this country .

I maybe giving him way too much credit , who knows but none the less he's a very intelligent man .

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I think Starmer has played a very canny game during his time so far .

He's gone with letting the Tories implode all by themselves and as Napoleon said " never interrupt your enemy whilst he's making mistakes " .

I think he knew all too well with Johnson's character he'd eventually blow himself up .

My gut says he knew Brexit would eventually divide the Tory Party too like it's divided everything else in this country .

I maybe giving him way too much credit , who knows but none the less he's a very intelligent man .

Yes, intelligent, as you would expect from a man educated at an independent school, Oxford graduate…..and of course a millionaire

[great_fire]

Net Zero even quicker sounds like a winning policy....not.

Neither party works for the electorate. Net Zero is a UN, globalist, policy which will make people poorer.

[Godsend.F.C.]

I think Starmer has played a very canny game during his time so far .
He's gone with letting the Tories implode all by themselves and as Napoleon said " never interrupt your enemy whilst he's making mistakes " .
I think he knew all too well with Johnson's character he'd eventually blow himself up .
My gut says he knew Brexit would eventually divide the Tory Party too like it's divided everything else in this country .
I maybe giving him way too much credit , who knows but none the less he's a very intelligent man .

Starmer doesn't come from a priveledged background. Worked his way up the system and made mistakes along the way. (who hasn't).
All I've seen for the last 12 years is " a vicious cycle of stagnation".
Something has got to give. Sunak for me until the Tories decide to call an election. (which I doubt will be anytime soon.)

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Net Zero even quicker sounds like a winning policy....not.

Neither party works for the electorate. Net Zero is a UN, globalist, policy which will make people poorer.

If there’s an election it will be the turkey voting for Christmas, whatever party wins and supplies the stuffing

Hung parliament a certainty

[Godsend.F.C.]

Yes, intelligent, as you would expect from a man educated at an independent school, Oxford graduate…..and of course a millionaire

What's wrong with a good education and improving ones lifestyle.
Politicians do seem to be out of touch and self-serving these days, (I will give you that.)

[great_fire]

Starmer doesn't come from a priveledged background. Worked his way up the system and made mistakes along the way. (who hasn't).
All I've seen for the last 12 years is " a vicious cycle of stagnation".
Something has got to give. Sunak for me until the Tories decide to call an election. (which I doubt will be anytime soon.)

He's not totally honest on that, says his Dad was a humble toolmaker, one of the workers, but he actually owned the factory.

[animallittle3]

Starmer doesn't come from a priveledged background. Worked his way up the system and made mistakes along the way. (who hasn't).
All I've seen for the last 12 years is " a vicious cycle of stagnation".
Something has got to give. Sunak for me until the Tories decide to call an election. (which I doubt will be anytime soon.)

I'm aware of his background Godsend .

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

What's wrong with a good education and improving ones lifestyle.
Politicians do seem to be out of touch and self-serving these days, (I will give you that.)

Nothing at all, but he’s more like a Tory MP than a typical Labour MP

He’s London centric like the rest.

Issues North of Watford don’t really matter and as a smokescreen he keeps Angela Raynor as his deputy to give it “ a working class touch”

Labour are as clueless as the Tories, they just currently have the advantage though because their ideas are all on paper and haven’t been tested in reality. They can promise without comeback, and will do so to get elected.

Us up North will continue to be shafted

[animallittle3]

If there’s an election it will be the turkey voting for Christmas, whatever party wins and supplies the stuffing

Hung parliament a certainty

You must be joking Grist , the Tories are done for , absolutely done for .

There isn't anybody in UK political history who have come back from this , one poll today has the Tories on 11% .

They've neither the time nor the talent to pull this off and things are only going to get worse with the economy going forward .

They can't even agree with themselves and nobody votes for a divided party .

They've virtually handed the next election to Labour on a plate .