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    " single mums on Universal Credit living on the Stoops Estate in Burnley or the Oldham's Estate in Bolton have no chance whatsoever of being able to properly feed their kids, never mind think about the benefits of education."

    Ah yes, the Stoops Estate in Burnley, tell me about it, or rather mon ami, I'll tell you. Mrs S got her first teaching job at Myrtle Bank on the Stoops Estate in 1970, it was a sink estate, it was a **** hole, I worked at Burnley Fire Station, we were regulars on the Stoops Estate, I felt sorry for the decent people who had to live there, and there were plenty amongst the dross, including single mums. Between me and the missus there wasn't much happening on Stoops that we didn't know about. I could have written a book about it, and this was the 60s and 70s, a period when, apart from 4 years when Fred Teeth mistakenly thought he ran the country, it was run by Labour governments and the Trade Unions.

    Plus ca change eh ? And now it's all the Tories fault, you really haven't got a clue mon ami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    " single mums on Universal Credit living on the Stoops Estate in Burnley or the Oldham's Estate in Bolton have no chance whatsoever of being able to properly feed their kids, never mind think about the benefits of education."

    Ah yes, the Stoops Estate in Burnley, tell me about it, or rather mon ami, I'll tell you. Mrs S got her first teaching job at Myrtle Bank on the Stoops Estate in 1970, it was a sink estate, it was a **** hole, I worked at Burnley Fire Station, we were regulars on the Stoops Estate, I felt sorry for the decent people who had to live there, and there were plenty amongst the dross, including single mums. Between me and the missus there wasn't much happening on Stoops that we didn't know about. I could have written a book about it, and this was the 60s and 70s, a period when, apart from 4 years when Fred Teeth mistakenly thought he ran the country, it was run by Labour governments and the Trade Unions.

    Plus ca change eh ? And now it's all the Tories fault, you really haven't got a clue mon ami.
    We have no chance whatsoever for change mon ami. The Toxic party will see to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    We have no chance whatsoever for change mon ami. The Toxic party will see to that.
    Go on BT you’ve perked my interest, in the main I understand your arguments for immigration, education, homelessness etc etc given that we are led by your so called toxic party at the minute who are culpable for everything wrong in the Uk , how would you / Labour differ - where will they generate the money from to right all the wrongs that are in play at the minute, I’ve posted many times there is only one pot of money which is available to any government.

    So increases in benefits in line with inflation isn’t good enough for you ? Thousands of immigrants illegally here housed fed and watered also isn’t good enough for you.


    I’m self employed and pay tax and Ni as I should , my tax is distributed to subsidise all the people that your complaining for and yet I get less holiday - if I don’t work I don’t get paid and without people like me there would be none of this ( to top that I now have to pay more as of this week to offset the inflation rises against benefits).

    The sooner you wake up to the fact that we have a nation of spongers leaching of society and literally pissing themselves laughing at the the politicians, we have our own people who can’t get housing - money - benefits whom genuinely need them and yet we have loads milking the system and enough immigration to sink the island itself all bleeding the country dry.

    So my question genuinely is where will you get the money from doing things differently to where it’s generated now.?

    Or what/ who will suffer to make sure all of your ideals are met.

    Just asking genuine - question

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    Go on BT you’ve perked my interest, in the main I understand your arguments for immigration, education, homelessness etc etc given that we are led by your so called toxic party at the minute who are culpable for everything wrong in the Uk , how would you / Labour differ - where will they generate the money from to right all the wrongs that are in play at the minute, I’ve posted many times there is only one pot of money which is available to any government.

    So increases in benefits in line with inflation isn’t good enough for you ? Thousands of immigrants illegally here housed fed and watered also isn’t good enough for you.


    I’m self employed and pay tax and Ni as I should , my tax is distributed to subsidise all the people that your complaining for and yet I get less holiday - if I don’t work I don’t get paid and without people like me there would be none of this ( to top that I now have to pay more as of this week to offset the inflation rises against benefits).

    The sooner you wake up to the fact that we have a nation of spongers leaching of society and literally pissing themselves laughing at the the politicians, we have our own people who can’t get housing - money - benefits whom genuinely need them and yet we have loads milking the system and enough immigration to sink the island itself all bleeding the country dry.

    So my question genuinely is where will you get the money from doing things differently to where it’s generated now.?

    Or what/ who will suffer to make sure all of your ideals are met.

    Just asking genuine - question
    Did you ever watch the "Generation Game" army88. Stuff comes around on a carousel and the contestant manages one item at a time in order of priority.

    That's what we need right now. A batch of serious politicians who will prioritise what needs doing and put effort and money into solving the most pressing problems. Stop the haemorrhaging.

    So, what do we have. A prime minister without a mandate who f*cks off to Egypt last week and the Ukraine this weekend.

    Give me f*cking strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Did you ever watch the "Generation Game" army88. Stuff comes around on a carousel and the contestant manages one item at a time in order of priority.

    That's what we need right now. A batch of serious politicians who will prioritise what needs doing and put effort and money into solving the most pressing problems. Stop the haemorrhaging.

    So, what do we have. A prime minister without a mandate who f*cks off to Egypt last week and the Ukraine this weekend.

    Give me f*cking strength.
    Be honest BT you don’t have an answer but picking one item at a time is irrelevant as for a plus or result in one matter results in a negative on the other - ie Peter to pay Paul

    As I said there is only one pot of money and you can distribute it how you like, reality is you’ll upset as many or more as you save or improve their lives.

    Until anyone gets a grip of the whole thing and accepts that the NHS is run badly , illegal immigration is a massive problem , benefit fraud is huge , nothing will ever change no matter who is in charge, I admire your belief that it will but I’m my lifetime it hasn’t to press anyway.

    The reason I’m pretty miffed is the budget so called will be funded from me and people like me , the middle run if you like - but regardless of what you say or call me I’m sick of paying and propping up a sponging society and illegal immigrants to name but two.

    So personally Me and my family are going to suffer to keep the woke brigade happy , immigrants in fancy hotels and lazy work shy B—-stards in cigarettes alcohol and PlayStation games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    " single mums on Universal Credit living on the Stoops Estate in Burnley or the Oldham's Estate in Bolton have no chance whatsoever of being able to properly feed their kids, never mind think about the benefits of education."

    Ah yes, the Stoops Estate in Burnley, tell me about it, or rather mon ami, I'll tell you. Mrs S got her first teaching job at Myrtle Bank on the Stoops Estate in 1970, it was a sink estate, it was a **** hole, I worked at Burnley Fire Station, we were regulars on the Stoops Estate, I felt sorry for the decent people who had to live there, and there were plenty amongst the dross, including single mums. Between me and the missus there wasn't much happening on Stoops that we didn't know about. I could have written a book about it, and this was the 60s and 70s, a period when, apart from 4 years when Fred Teeth mistakenly thought he ran the country, it was run by Labour governments and the Trade Unions.

    Plus ca change eh ? And now it's all the Tories fault, you really haven't got a clue mon ami.
    Given the political will a progressive game changing government in power for 13 years could change all of this round. Sadly, we do not have one.

    Putting two Tories on the Stoops Estate is akin to putting King Herod in charge of your first-born son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Given the political will a progressive game changing government in power for 13 years could change all of this round. Sadly, we do not have one.
    And still you think a change of government is all that's required ? You are so fecking gullible mon ami, you remind me of a child playing in the gutter with his marbles, worried one or two might go down the drain, while the poor little bugger is totally oblivious to the juggernauts and lorries speeding past behind him, just a couple of feet away.

    Your almost childlike innocence and faith in our party political system is touching mon ami, at least it would be if you were a child, but you're not, you're supposed to be a grown up. When are you going to start acting like one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    And still you think a change of government is all that's required ? You are so fecking gullible mon ami, you remind me of a child playing in the gutter with his marbles, worried one or two might go down the drain, while the poor little bugger is totally oblivious to the juggernauts and lorries speeding past behind him, just a couple of feet away.

    Your almost childlike innocence and faith in our party political system is touching mon ami, at least it would be if you were a child, but you're not, you're supposed to be a grown up. When are you going to start acting like one ?
    Because I keep on ripping the $hit out of the Toxic party seems to bring the name calling worse out in you mon ami. Tell you what, instead of constantly calling me an infant get round to your Constituency MP's office and ask him to get your lot to get their fecking finger out of each other's arseholes and sort this mess out they themselves have created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Because I keep on ripping the $hit out of the Toxic party seems to bring the name calling worse out in you mon ami. Tell you what, instead of constantly calling me an infant get round to your Constituency MP's office and ask him to get your lot to get their fecking finger out of each other's arseholes and sort this mess out they themselves have created.
    Nothing to do with Tories mon ami, your disgusting abuse of army finished it for me. You want to play it that way, fine by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Nothing to do with Tories mon ami, your disgusting abuse of army finished it for me. You want to play it that way, fine by me.
    Remind me of what caused you such outrage mon ami.

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