Burchnall

[laddo]

Sorry couldn’t help myself after a few wines! Thing is I don’t understand this obsession with former players and managers, Ardley’s been done to death, now Burchnall, not to mention Sam Osbourne and others. Burch didn’t get us promoted, he left for a higher job, can’t blame him. All that was said at the beginning and to me he became an irrelevance, whether he succeeds or fails I don’t give a s**t. I’m very happy he left as the replacement is an upgrade, we move on.

That's my view Cam 100%, every word.

However it's clear that there is a huge variance in terms of interest in former players, especially former managers and looking backwards at the past rather than to forwards to the future.

I imagine a few want him to succeed, a lot more will take great delight in him failing, and the majority won't care. He's ex-Notts County , and the ex part says it all. Old news.

[Davy500]

Sorry couldn’t help myself after a few wines! Thing is I don’t understand this obsession with former players and managers, Ardley’s been done to death, now Burchnall, not to mention Sam Osbourne and others. Burch didn’t get us promoted, he left for a higher job, can’t blame him. All that was said at the beginning and to me he became an irrelevance, whether he succeeds or fails I don’t give a s**t. I’m very happy he left as the replacement is an upgrade, we move on.

Its just the way it is for some of us, Warnock left the club nearly 30 years ago, i have always been interested in what clubs he has been too, and what he has achieved

[upthemaggies]

Sliding doors moment for Burch? They would have climbed out of the bottom 4 for the first time this season (I think) had they won last night. Losing to somebody below you in that position is usually a death sign though. Still tight points-wise but the pressure will have increased enormously on the back of that result.

[Elite_Pie]

Thing is I don’t understand this obsession with former players and managers.

I'd call it an interest rather then obsession.

The fact this topic has had 20 odd replies in less than 11 hours suggests the interest is there somewhere!

[Davy500]

I'd call it an interest rather then obsession.

The fact this topic has had 20 odd replies in less than 11 hours suggests the interest is there somewhere!

Course there is an interest. Just as in real life. if anybody f...s you over , its highly satisfying to find out later that this person has failed , or had bad luck, an accident etc , ,its pretty dark but it the way we are built as humans,

[Jampie]

I wouldn't sack him now. We know he can get good results, and based on my (admittedly perhaps flawed) understanding of FGR's position, staying up this season would be an achievement. I'd definitely give him the full season in charge at the least.

[OP67]

Losing the MK Dons the Burton, the teams above and below them at the bottom in a week surely will see him sacked. If so I can't see him getting a head coach job anytime soon. Maybe a coaching job but it's clear to see he hasn't got it in him to manage a team.

[Jeekay56]

not to mention Sam Osbourne and others.

If he matters so much to you, you could spell his name correctly.

[kill_the_drum]

And yes at the time , IB would not have been aware of scot and langstaff, so a higher division, more cash on a 3 year deal, would make absolute sense
But it still has not ansered the question, is LW a great manager, or has he just benefied from great players, and an excellent off the field set up, would LW have done so well with the team we had last year, possible but not likely

I think the answer is it’s way too early to tell.
What I do think is staring us in the face is we have incredible owners.
They have dismantled everything that was wrong at Notts and rebuilt from the foundations. Nothing is reactionary, nothing is knee jerk. Everything seems considered and measured.
They have a blueprint on the style of football and the type of personnel they want, so we now have a club/business that is in an environment of stability and consistency. If someone leaves, we replace them with someone who slots in, without having to disrupt too much.
It’s pretty incredible that we had a player as good as Cal Roberts leave us and we haven’t missed him one bit. Ardley and IB aren’t remembered favourably by many but I think they’ve played their part in rebuilding our foundation. IB came into a club that was in a better place than when Ardley came in and likewise for LW.
My gut feeling is we’d still be in this league if LW had got the job at the time NA or IB got it.

[nw6pie]

Still doesnt change the fact that a large part of our success is down to Langstaff and scot - between just them to more than half of our goals

Obviously helps that we have Langstaff and Scott, but we’re scoring goals that are the result of teamwork rather than individual brilliance. Macca and Ced’s job is to get into goalscoring positions and be on the end of all those great crosses into the box. Same for Adam Chicksen. I think any half-decent forward would score goals in this team. Draw your own conclusions, therefore, about Kairo Mitchell.