Can’t compete or won’t compete?

[mellowmiller]

Don't want any free agents academy players. Also no were good players. Don't want players who need a pre-season weeks before they are up to speed. Scotty put that in your search for players should stop us having a window as bad as last one.

We're Rotherham United. If we make any signings in January they are likely to be players no-one else wants. Get used to it.

[welovebooth]

It's the fans been unrealistic.

We all know we can't compete at this level financially.

We all know we feed off the scraps when it comes to players that's why we always sign them late in January because they wait for other clubs.

Next year in league 1 will be interesting to see if Taylor can do a Warne.

That's when the real pressure will be on him from ts.

The championship is a free hit for the club.

[mellowmiller]

I think Warne made sensible decisions with his management team. Can’t fault his logic he needed people he trusted after the fiasco before him.
A lot to be said for having a team you trust.

I think that's the point.
I'm guessing a lot of people on here who make "clever" comments have never been in a management role as they certainly don't appreciate the value of working with a team of people you can trust to get on with things.
Where I do think the club is weak is that there is no-one on the board who is a "football person" which may explain why some of our transfer ins take so long and outs are often undervalued compared to what other clubs seem able to achieve.

[mygiddypant]

Here we go again the PWlove website. He left us, and he wiped out our entire coaching staff in one day, so let us remember how he left rather than where we were when he left. MT didn't do that at Exeter he showed the club some respect, so who is the good person there then? I am not anti-pw he did a great job in League 1 and gave the club it's best ever season, a cup and a promotion. However he failed at championship level 3 times 2 of those times with squads he built, we can all see that a lot of his closed season signings aren't good enough, so would he have kept us up this year, we will never know. Rotherham are not a club that signs players that the manager doesn't want or approve, so all the players signed by PW were his, some great signings and some donkeys, which is what you would expect, the skill is to get more of the former. MT deserves time and support from the board, we recruited an up and coming manager with no championship experience not jurgen Klopp, unfortunately that means he has to learn on the job, you priests of PW were happy for him to do that so give MT the same support you gave PW. I remember being sat at Blackpool in PW first full season losing 1-0 with 2 mins left, listening to chants of Warne out and rumours he was going to be sacked if we lost, then Ball scored twice and we went on a run made it to the playoffs. The PW journey was exciting with ups and downs, give MT a chance please.

So are we supposed to forget recent history and applaud the fact that in recent weeks we have witnessed an alarming drop in performance and results? Is this the same season where we were applauding Captain Fantastic and others for keeping the ball out of the onion bag?

I agree that MT needs a chance, but how long does it take to recognise that something's not working?

Warne didn't force Barker et al to go to Derby. I imagine they went willingly. Traitors? Or just making the most of the opportunity offered?

My allegiance doesn't transfer with a manager, player or whatever. I would be genuinely delighted to see Taylor succeed. What pithes me off
are the ones who can't see beyond their prejudices.

[millersrus]

Jimmy, it's easy, just stop listening to him. He talks crap to sell Season Tickets. He's always talked it up.

I wouldn't believe him if he told me the time........................

Dosent need to sell me a season ticket, myself and most likely many others will continue buy season tickets regardless.
I was buying them before he was chairman and probably will be buying them when he’s gone, unless I pop my clogs first.

[PeteWaller]

Think we know TS hasn’t the resources to carry the club successfully into other than low Championship status at best. There is serious money now in this league which puts him at odds. PW had his success by being able to turn some pretty ordinary players into a team which played for each other. MT hasn’t achieved that yet and some of our players seem lost in his system. Smith was a big loss to us.
It’s RUFC and we are a better than average L1 club. TS can’t change that whether he wants to or not. Fans perhaps need to accept the limitations and not get fed up. It is hard but competing financially at this level is beyond us. 8000 hard core fans do not support owt and TS knows his numbers. He supports to a point but after that it’s no thanks

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

So Warne was playing the same tactical game throughout his reign? You conveniently forget where we were when he left.

Oh, the benefits of wearing blinkers.

Yes and why we were incapable of going any further. Warne proved that with his relegations from the championship. One plan, one way, one outcome. Works in league 1 then goes stale with no ideas on how to cope with a higher league.

[Scum-Triumphant]

Warne tried and tried to sign players and get them to sign improved contracts but other clubs just kept offering a bit more each time the agent was given the offer.
I think Tony means what he says. Just putting it into action is more challenging than throwing money at it.

West Brom and Birmingham and Reading do that and they’ve all almost gone bust despite parachute payments and Bellingham money.

Utterly incredible how fickle our fans are and how much they've turned in a few weeks.
Same owner, same manager and same threadbare squad that won at Stoke and Blades and deserved more from Burnley and Norwich.
Now Tony needs to sell up to the imaginary people who will throw money at us.
Taylor needs sacking and all the players need releasing on a free.
American company MSD were the investors apparently, they aren't about buying football clubs, they have been in with plenty of clubs and are basically in it to loan money and get that back with profit and some shares.

Why would we want to borrow £20m for example, pay back £25-30m and lose 25% of the club in the process?
Same company that have loaned to West Brom, Sunderland and all those clubs who spend beyond their means.
They're basically the wonga for football finance
They get round conflict of interest. it's the owner of Dell heading it all up but under multiple different company names under the MSD brand.
Basically invests the money as a loan, secured against shares. So he doesn't buy the shares directly, that's his work around.

[mygiddypant]

Yes and why we were incapable of going any further. Warne proved that with his relegations from the championship. One plan, one way, one outcome. Works in league 1 then goes stale with no ideas on how to cope with a higher league.

One of those relegations even Jesus would have had difficulty keeping us up. Another was following a mad dash for the Covid finishing line when we were some 10 minutes from safety.

If you couldn't see the changes in tactics then you must have stopped going to games.

[gru]

One of those relegations even Jesus would have had difficulty keeping us up. Another was following a mad dash for the Covid finishing line when we were some 10 minutes from safety.

If you couldn't see the changes in tactics then you must have stopped going to games.

Like most on here your brainwashed. What about promotion by PPG very unlikely that season we would have gone up. I support the club but the Warney years were dull compared with Evans years. Look at sides Evans put together to get us up & keep us up, exciting times.