O/T:- The NHS strike - for or against?

[magpie_mania]

I think it's more lust than love !
Shapps & Barclay have told us that they are as good as killing people !! i never knew they cared , if they did they wouldn't have underfunded the NHS for over a decade !!
The way they treated Doctors and Nurses through Covid with their delayed tactic for PPE, whilst their friends set up companies then rewarding them with fat contracts whilst people died was corporate manslaughter ! i await their arrest and trial !

After thinking I had mistakenly clicked on the handbags thread, Pedro gets us more on track.

There are some pretty big allegations there though - when have Shapps or Barclay said that?

[laddo]

Wow! So the person who only wants to talk about all things Notts and hates topics being derailed posts this garbage.

Why are you even reading this laddo, and do you have anything relevant to contribute?

Only you would react like that lol

Calm down dear, it was just a little joke. You may have noticed on all the Notts related threads the criticism JB and his inclusion has received. He's being blamed for almost everything.

Oh and don't worry I haven't been reading this thread it's O/T.

[Elite_Pie]

After thinking I had mistakenly clicked on the handbags thread, Pedro gets us more on track.

So I hope you noticed who took it off topic. If your'e struggling, it's the poster who continually whines about threads being derailed and never, ever reads O/T topics. Just like he never read handbags!

After thinking I had mistakenly clicked on the handbags thread, Pedro gets us more on track.

There are some pretty big allegations there though - when have Shapps or Barclay said that?

They won't have said it directly, but it would take someone with more Tory bias than Soccerman to claim it's untrue. It's undeniable that lots of people are dying before they should due to the pitiful state of the NHS.

[Magpies1959]

Not long now till Labour ride over the hill to save the NHS

[Elite_Pie]

Not long now till Labour ride over the hill to save the NHS

So no mention of what the Tories have done to the NHS?

We don't know what might happen under Labour, but we definitely know what has happened under this bunch.

[laddo]

EP I put just three words aimed at nobody in particular. It was said as just a joke. That didn't derail anything, your and 59s follow up conversation ( I count 7 posts between you twos) about those 3 words was the derailing part. But you have a good history of that, so no surprise.

In fact , I'd go as far as to say if you hadn't have quoted my post (yet again) and responded I doubt anybody else would have. Funny that lol

Of course if you feel the need to discuss this further, I am happy to but only in the handbags thread.

Right will let you all get back to the topic of NHS now we've determine Bostock isn't to blame for this one

[PedroTheFisherman66]

After thinking I had mistakenly clicked on the handbags thread, Pedro gets us more on track.

There are some pretty big allegations there though - when have Shapps or Barclay said that?

They have said that they are not covering emergency calls whilst they are on strike.Hence why they want to bring in minimum service levels.
Completely untrue and ambulance waiting times have been awful for years now. Such a shame theyve not been that bothered by minimum service levels over this time.Their solution to this ! Not to improve services but to remove target times..!!!
Never Trust a Tory with the NHS (or in life).

[GranthamPie]

Never Trust a Tory with the NHS (or in life).

Amen brother

[upthemaggies]

So no mention of what the Tories have done to the NHS?

We don't know what might happen under Labour, but we definitely know what has happened under this bunch.

NHS Wales is run by Labour.

"2022 will mark a quarter of a century since voters in Wales chose to move powers over many public services from London to Cardiff. Health and social care have become the giants among these responsibilities, accounting for almost half of the devolved government’s budget, and seen by the public even before Covid-19 as by far the most important area for which Wales is responsible."

Graphs from June 2022 show progress compared to England.....
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/new...les-performing

[Elite_Pie]

NHS Wales is run by Labour.

"2022 will mark a quarter of a century since voters in Wales chose to move powers over many public services from London to Cardiff. Health and social care have become the giants among these responsibilities, accounting for almost half of the devolved government’s budget, and seen by the public even before Covid-19 as by far the most important area for which Wales is responsible."

Graphs from June 2022 show progress compared to England.....
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/new...les-performing

That suggests that Labour have done a bad job in Wales.

But it doesn't mean the Tories haven't done a bad job here.