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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA1955 View Post
    The media is full of this stuff to distract you from what is happening here, pensioners dying of hypothermia, families using food banks and sadly once again the sheep are following the flock like they did with Covid.
    Anyone seen any Astrazeneca lately?
    Totally agree 55. I personally don’t know what to believe anymore. So much corruption everywhere even within our own nation. So much money being sent overseas.. where is it really going, and really is all of it going?
    Its the poor folk, kids, women.. the vulnerable that suffer (in Ukraine) and we’ll be shown that to justify those means, then not shown that (here in the UK).

    Wars have always been profitable but there’s always a loss of lives, like we are seeing.

    What is this war really about? I don’t think we’ll find the answers glued to a tv and everywhere else is getting censored.

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    Clearly, many, many lives are being lost in this utterly pointless war. Countless other lives ruined. Putin has rained death and misery on millions of people for nothing more than his own vainglorious ambitions. Anybody that thinks that not backing Ukraine with the means to win the war is deceiving themselves. History speaks to us.

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    The war stops tomorrow if Putin withdraws his troops or stages a ceasefire. There are no foreign troops in Russia or missiles hitting Russian cities. There is only one aggressor here. Putin only understands force … so we should be arming the brave Ukrainians to the teeth to defend themselves. I simply don’t get the argument that by not providing weapons to Ukraine will bring peace sooner … only by Russia rolling over a sovereign and independent country. Against its will.

    This is a war on our doorstep … against a dictator who is winding his country up that it is being attacked and under threat of existence. Absolute utter BS. The pretext of brave Russian communities being abused, tortured and murdered in foreign lands was exactly from Hitler’s playbook.

    If the West does not stand up to this B******* then we will be next … for that I am sure.

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    Regarding Ukraine as a racist society and corrupt.
    I think we have to understand timelines and the development of nations.
    In so many ways many of those previous Soviet controlled nations are Years behind the rest of Europe in terms of social attitudes towards multiculturalism, racism, homo***uality etc etc etc . The soviet system is also inherently corrupt.
    Go back to the 70’s in the UK and I remember racist thugs on our terraces, National Front handing out leaflets outside our ground. Homo***uality still almost a taboo subject.
    Thankfully we have improved, but it’s been a real struggle for many, only by implementing strict laws and we are far from where we need to be.
    Anyhow, I want to live in a civilized world with law and order, where people don’t just walk by when their neighbor beats his wife and buggers his kids and just say its none of my business, it a family affair. That’s why we need to rule of Law to protect these people.
    If anyone does not see the moral need to help Ukraine then maybe they need to fall back on the law. There is international law relating to invading and committing was crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    I understand the support for Ukrainians but find it hard to forget the vile abuse they give to black players from England and other nations during matches.

    After the war is over I wonder how long it’ll be before they’re throwing bananas at our players again?

    Strange post Mick! There is vile abuse at every football stadium. The English supporters are even now involved in thuggery and racism - even seen at West Brom. Our so called supporters for England wreck everything in every country! Remember Amsterdam when they urinated on innocent local people from a bridge? Absolute scum!!!

    Ukraine is not our problem some say! Different though if it was your own mothers or daughters being bombed or raped!

    Anyone who thinks Putin if able would stop at Ukraine is as thick as dog s hit!! That’s the moral of the story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Strange post Mick! There is vile abuse at every football stadium. The English supporters are even now involved in thuggery and racism - even seen at West Brom. Our so called supporters for England wreck everything in every country! Remember Amsterdam when they urinated on innocent local people from a bridge? Absolute scum!!!

    Ukraine is not our problem some say! Different though if it was your own mothers or daughters being bombed or raped!

    Anyone who thinks Putin if able would stop at Ukraine is as thick as dog s hit!! That’s the moral of the story!
    Top post Al. 👏👍

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    Putin needs to be stopped. End of!

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