Sturgeonland

[donsdaft]

Go on then
While you're at it, show me all the posts I put up about toilets.

You're quick enough to accuse folk but it's all in your imagination.

[stewarty27]

This from the boy who couldn’t wait to post a story about a child’s abduction because it reflected negatively on the SG and transgender community. Not so quick this time.

The moral high ground here is simply to leave people alone. It’s not difficult.

Yes I posted that to show Nicola Sturgeons ludicrous position I make no apology for that. But I strongly refute I did it to reflect badly on transgender community I totally respect the Transgender community and their right to live their lives as they wish. And this is fundamental to my views now please listen carefully to what I'm saying.

My concerns are with the GRR bill .... NOT Transgenders there is a difference a big difference you continually conflate my views with those of Donsdaft. And you do it deliberately. Back to the GRR bill my view and thousands of others is this ill thought out bill not only damages Women's right to single spaces and is wide open to abuse by abusers not just to Adult Women but children also . I also believe it does not help the Transgender community one bit but if fact marginalises them even more ! let me give you a few examples of you and Sturgeons ideology madness.

when her rhetoric of “trans women are women” is confronted with the reality of a convicted rapist who, in the time it took to get him to court for trial, had self-identified as a woman, then her ability to communicate on what she has championed as a flagship policy, and another Scottish first, has crumpled.

She has no argument because there is none. !!!!! If the first minister believes all trans women are women, then why would a trans woman like Isla Bryson not be placed in a women’s prison? If not all trans women are women, then how do we tell the good from the bad? And if not all trans women are women, then weren’t women’s concerns about male-bodied people getting access to their single-*** spaces valid?
And if not all trans women are women, then why were Isla Bryson’s victims made to endure hearing him referred to as “she” in court and the crime that he had committed against them described as being done by “her p e n is?

Can you see the madness yet Mason ?

Now this paragraph paints you perfectly Mason

“Trans women are women” has been you and Sturgeon's mantra deliberately adopted by trans activists as a strategy to shut critics down. It is a statement of opinion masking as fact. It’s a test. And if you don’t automatically repeat it, or question its veracity, or even mention biology, then you’re a transphobe and your favourite attack Bigot, and sure enough Women's views are invalid.

I say lets go back to the drawing board and get this bill right there was some really good stuff in it but there was also some hellava dangerous stuff inaw. Of course doing that would mean You and Sturgeon are wrong oh dear that's no gonna happen is it ?

[Mason89]

You’re going round in circles. 6 years and 2 public consultations and you think you’re coming at this from a new angle? You don’t think any of these concerns may have been addressed? The question you should be asking yourself is, why now? You’re being completely played like a fiddle. A useful sock puppet for the far right.

These certificates have no affect on anyone else’s lives whatsoever. One may have given that poor child’s family some crumb of comfort though.

[Mason89]

Go on then
While you're at it, show me all the posts I put up about toilets.

You're quick enough to accuse folk but it's all in your imagination.

Post#750

Are you saying you believe transgender women belong in these spaces now? That’s great, well done

[donsdaft]

"I do.

You live a lie if you want to, I'm not joining in."






That's it is it?

All these accusations and that's all you can come up with?

T'WAT

What spaces?Dearie me but you're struggling today.

[Mason89]

You said you didn’t care but previously said you did. If you can’t make your mind up I’ve got no chance. That doesn’t make me a liar though.

My only accusation is that you’re a bigot & you prove it every time you post on the subject

[stewarty27]

You’re going round in circles. 6 years and 2 public consultations and you think you’re coming at this from a new angle? You don’t think any of these concerns may have been addressed? The question you should be asking yourself is, why now? You’re being completely played like a fiddle. A useful sock puppet for the far right.

These certificates have no affect on anyone else’s lives whatsoever. One may have given that poor child’s family some crumb of comfort though.

No I don't think they were addressed they were certainly raised but totally ignored not just ignored but any dissenters were hounded out of the party and called bigots.. And this is not a new angle its merely pointing out the pitfalls that have always been there. Chance's were there for Sturgeon and her subordinates to address during the 3rd reading of the bill when some really sensible amendments were chucked out.

Sturgeon has done more damage to the Trans community than any other hard nosed transphobe could ever do. And the damage to the Independence movement is unforgivable.

[Mason89]

Oh & if Rev Stu is looking in, a wee reminder that you’re a f*cking c*nt

[Mason89]

No I don't think they were addressed they were certainly raised but totally ignored. And this is not a new angle its merely pointing out the pitfalls that have always been there. Chance's were there for Sturgeon and her subordinates to address during the 3rd reading of the bill when some really sensible amendments were chucked out.

Sturgeon has done more damage to the Trans community than any other hard nosed transphobe could ever do. And the damage to the Independence movement is unforgivable.

You could drive a bus through every part of that

[donsdaft]

You said you didn’t care but previously said you did. If you can’t make your mind up I’ve got no chance. That doesn’t make me a liar though.

My only accusation is that you’re a bigot & you prove it every time you post on the subject

I never said anything about toilets.
It's you, you just make things up.

I may eventually have retaliated to your constant accusations but why would these weirdos being in female toilets bother me?
The fact that it bothers the women I understand, but me?