Can anyone say if

[BCram]

What if they're completely correct?

I think that if they were completely correct sceptics like me would be on their side and not be worrying about the consequences of voting yes for independence.

[The AuldYin]

What if they're completely correct?

Eh? They admitted themselves they got the figures completely wrong especially on oil revenue.

[Deeranged]

I think that if they were completely correct sceptics like me would be on their side and not be worrying about the consequences of voting yes for independence.

Agreed again. But what if they're partially correct and the advantages of independence outweigh the disadvantages? Some people just don't want to know and wil opt to maintain the status quo regardless. For some there could be an overwhelming case for independence and they'd still want to stay in the union.

You admit to being a sceptic so it would be very difficult to change you but at least your scepticism seems based on lack of information rather than a total acceptance of misinformation and half truths or the total fear of change although I do think there's an element of fear of change there as there is with all 'unionists'. These are the people that worried they might lose Coronation Street or Match Of The Day.

[noahrab]

Agreed again. But what if they're partially correct and the advantages of independence outweigh the disadvantages? Some people just don't want to know and wil opt to maintain the status quo regardless. For some there could be an overwhelming case for independence and they'd still want to stay in the union.

You admit to being a sceptic so it would be very difficult to change you but at least your scepticism seems based on lack of information rather than a total acceptance of misinformation and half truths or the total fear of change although I do think there's an element of fear of change there as there is with all 'unionists'. These are the people that worried they might lose Coronation Street or Match Of The Day.

The scenario I put to all Nats is if there were a referendum tomorrow and on balance going independent would make life better for Scot’s I would vote for it in a heartbeat. I’d never vote to make Scotland a poorer country.

If on the other hand, on balance, we’d be better off as we are, how would they vote?

Guess the answer…

[BCram]

The scenario I put to all Nats is if there were a referendum tomorrow and on balance going independent would make life better for Scot’s I would vote for it in a heartbeat. I’d never vote to make Scotland a poorer country.

If on the other hand, on balance, we’d be better off as we are, how would they vote?

Guess the answer…

Exactly where my thinking has got me. I am convinced that a straightforward calculation of the tax raised and the amount of money needed to run the health service, provide the social benefits, pay pensions, pay for local authorities etc would very quickly help everyone to decide what would be best. If the figures show that we don't raise enough tax to cover the costs then the way forward would seem to me to be to try to boost tax revenues by growing the economy and helping us to get richer.

[islaydarkblue]

Exactly where my thinking has got me. I am convinced that a straightforward calculation of the tax raised and the amount of money needed to run the health service, provide the social benefits, pay pensions, pay for local authorities etc would very quickly help everyone to decide what would be best. If the figures show that we don't raise enough tax to cover the costs then the way forward would seem to me to be to try to boost tax revenues by growing the economy and helping us to get richer.

How can you grow the economy of Scotland if the SNP controlled Scottish Government sets higher tax rates in Scotland compared to the rest of the U.K..
Anyone living and working in Scotland who earns more than £27,800 per annum pays more tax in Scotland than a person receiving the same salary in the rest of the U.K.

[Deeranged]

How can you grow the economy of Scotland if the SNP controlled Scottish Government sets higher tax rates in Scotland compared to the rest of the U.K..
Anyone living and working in Scotland who earns more than £27,800 per annum pays more tax in Scotland than a person receiving the same salary in the rest of the U.K.

But we have the benefit of living in a decent place as opposed to some tip like Leicester, Nottingham, Birmingham, Sheffield or the like.

[noahrab]

But we have the benefit of living in a decent place as opposed to some tip like Leicester, Nottingham, Birmingham, Sheffield or the like.

Oh ffs.

[islaydarkblue]

But we have the benefit of living in a decent place as opposed to some tip like Leicester, Nottingham, Birmingham, Sheffield or the like.

There are plenty towns and cities in Scotland which are also tips.
The centre of the City of Paisley is a sh1thole with it full of professional beggars from Eastern Europe.

[noahrab]

There are plenty towns and cities in Scotland which are also tips.
The centre of the City of Paisley is a sh1thole with it full of professional beggars from Eastern Europe.

Its quite clear he’s an anglophobic nationalist.