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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwacka View Post
    If our game at their ground was given to a ref from the Wrexham area, there'd be similar bedwetting from certain sections of Notts fans.

    The reality, though, is that no matter how inept some refs seem, the idea that any of them are biased is nonsense. They spend their lives trying to reach the top of their chosen profession, they're assessed constantly, and the idea that they might throw that all away by giving some dubious decisions to Dagenham (or any of our opponents, for that matter) is naïve and paranoid.
    Obviously its not naïve and paranoid because they have got the favourable decisions in the tight matches, which have given them the points. In theory they should be neutral , but there is no truly neutral person alive, we are all influenced by some degree, to socialisation, and more specifically media presence. As i have stated before this is what i think is happening in this case. It's the halo effect, where things or people that have high social status, get the benefit of the doubt in 50/50 situations, where regular people do not.
    Last edited by SwalePie; 07-03-2023 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Fixed typos / added punctuation for clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    Obviously its not naïve and paranoid because they have got the favourable decisions in the tight matches, which have given them the points. In theory they should be neutral , but there is no truly neutral person alive, we are all influenced by some degree, to socialisation, and more specifically media presence. As i have stated before this is what i think is happening in this case. It's the halo effect, where things or people that have high social status, get the benefit of the doubt in 50/50 situations, where regular people do not.
    I understand there may be an unconscious bias when you have 70,000 fans screaming handball at Old Trafford, that you won't have when a few hundred are grumbling at Boreham Wood. That's human nature. But when fans make out it's 'blatant cheating' (as many often do, for all clubs), that's paranoia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwacka View Post
    I understand there may be an unconscious bias when you have 70,000 fans screaming handball at Old Trafford, that you won't have when a few hundred are grumbling at Boreham Wood. That's human nature. But when fans make out it's 'blatant cheating' (as many often do, for all clubs), that's paranoia.
    Possible but not likely there has been cheating. However there have been numerous stories that have emerged years later that have admitted cheating in one form or another. Grobbelaar the Liverpool keeper admitted matches had been fixed. In fact another example concerning to Notts was admitted years later by Graham Souness, a long time ago when Notts were last at the the top level, we were playing Liverpool at home and were leading 1-0 at half time. Souness admitted that the great Liverpool can not lose to Notts County, he harassed the referee at half time, which lead to favourable decisions for them in the second half. The Cowley brothers were always in the faces of referees to get favourable decisions, so we know for sure that referees can be influenced even though they should be neutral.
    Last edited by SwalePie; 07-03-2023 at 03:37 PM. Reason: Fixed typos etc. for clarity

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