Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
You can't have it both ways. If their actions had no effect on the passage of the virus why are they guilty of causing deaths? I thought that the argument was that covid lockdowns were to save lives. If they had no effect why did these policies kill people? Same question applies to SNP policies.
They completely closed the NHS, the NHS is still partly closed. People didn't feel they could go to their GPs with symptoms - some were 'just' ill, some died. Cancer review appointments cancelled or not even permitted; people with chronic conditions not reviewed for three years and still not reviewed. People with acute conditions left to suffer and, in extreme cases, die. People are still not able to see their GPs without jumping through hoops first - how many will just not bother?

You couldn't get a dentist appointment, I can't remember the last time I saw my dentist and now have two fillings missing - but hey, I managed to book an appointent for next Thursday - two months ago. The Tories are closing the NHS down by stealth, I have a relative who's a dentist and who says most surgeries are refusing NHS patients as they turn toward private only.

All because of a knee jerk reaction to a virus that was supposed to be capable of wiping out around a quarter of the population but didn't cause any more hassle than a flu epedimic or a bout of a winter sickness bug that was labelled a pandemic. The pandemic strategy that had been in place for years completely ignored because people saw opportunity to profit from it. As RRoS would say - Sweden got it right.

Counting any death where the deceased had tested positive for Covid (using some very dubious testing methods) in the preceeding 28 days regardless of whether they showed symptoms of Covid or not just to try to get numbers up and justify the actions taken is a scandal of epic proportions. Refusing relatives the right to visit terminally ill loved ones, who would have died in the same time frame anyway, then declaring they died of Covid is also a scandal of epic proportions. Then of course they couldn't even give them decent funerals.

And don't even start me on the 'stressed' NHS when I know for a fact that Ninewells Hospital for example was empty and nurses and doctors spent their days making TikTok videos. Major exaggeration but you get the point. The authorities had to intervene and tell them to stop doing the videos.

The SNP are as culpable as the Tories by the way and I'm not saying they're not.

I'll leave RRoS to carry this on to the vaccination scandal as I'm not too certain on that one just yet.