O/T:-Gary Lineker

[PedroTheFisherman66]

So what is the caring socialists plan. Just let them all in, so we all suffer in this country eventually . There has to be a number which trips the house full signs, even for the genuine asylum seekers.
Sooner or later this country will lose it's identity, if it already hasn't.
There seems to be a disproportionate amount of very choosey young males, from apparently war torn counties entering this country by dinghy's.

The plan is assess and return or integrate into society..Not ignore them once they are here and keep them in holding centres or hotels like the tories are doing...! They say they want these immigrants out but they seem to be doing very little to assess them to the determine their credibility and needs...!

[BanjoPie]

Doctors and their families (example) coming ashore process and integrate - single young men from Bulgaria (example) coming ashore, process and return to Bulgaria.

[Bushwacka]

There seems to be a disproportionate amount of very choosey young males, from apparently war torn counties entering this country by dinghy's.

Says who? Are there stats for that or are you going by the selected photos you've seen in The Mail or posted by certain social media
accounts?

[BigFatPie]

Official routes? https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...t%20programmes. Took me 5 seconds to find.

And I've met Lineker thank you very much

You clearly didn’t read your own link;

The UK’s approach: Bespoke immigration routes
Home Office officials recognise that, in practice, “there are safe and legal routes from some places and not from others”.5
The rationale for selectively providing lawful routes was explored in a Home Affairs Committee evidence session in June, when committee member Tim Loughton MP questioned the Home Office’s Permanent Secretary, Matthew Rycroft:
Tim Loughton: (...) Mr Rycroft, if I am a young person escaping religious persecution in an east African country who has an aunt in the UK, or if I am somebody who is escaping the besieged city of Marib in Yemen—escaping from a warzone—with a distant relative in the UK, what is my best route, safely and legally, to get into the UK?
(...)
Matthew Rycroft: There is no dedicated safe and legal route for either of those conflicts.
Tim Loughton: Why not? (...)
Matthew Rycroft: Because the Government have not set one up. The best way to think about this is in the round, and different countries do different things in order to contribute overall to the requirement to help support people fleeing persecution.6
The eligibility criteria, type of immigration permission granted, and associated entitlements and conditions differ for each nationality-specific safe and legal route. The previous Home Secretary, Priti Patel, justified this approach on the basis that “safe and legal routes should be bespoke because every single crisis is unique.”7

What has the fact you’ve met Lineker got to do with anything?

[GranthamPie]

You clearly do not understand the enormity of the issue - that would not stop the boats or the gangs. The only real long-term solution to the problem is for the UK and the rest of the G7 to start sorting out the issues in the countries where the refugees are coming from so that they don’t need to leave. We could start by getting rid of Assad in Syria! - The russians too tied up now to do anything to stop us.

The USA, the UK and the G7 have been bombing these people back into the stone age for the last 25 years…. mass migration wasn’t an issue before that.

I suggest the “problem” is nearer to home

[sinophile]

And, if people think the levels of displacement caused by war and economic subjugation are not manageable, wait until climate breakdown forces people to migrate. The so-called developed countries need to start helping countries which will become ravaged, not just by war, but by drought, famine and flooding. This government have, rather than help, cut the foreign aid budget. A very myopic choice.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

You clearly didn’t read your own link;

The UK’s approach: Bespoke immigration routes
Home Office officials recognise that, in practice, “there are safe and legal routes from some places and not from others”.5
The rationale for selectively providing lawful routes was explored in a Home Affairs Committee evidence session in June, when committee member Tim Loughton MP questioned the Home Office’s Permanent Secretary, Matthew Rycroft:
Tim Loughton: (...) Mr Rycroft, if I am a young person escaping religious persecution in an east African country who has an aunt in the UK, or if I am somebody who is escaping the besieged city of Marib in Yemen—escaping from a warzone—with a distant relative in the UK, what is my best route, safely and legally, to get into the UK?
(...)
Matthew Rycroft: There is no dedicated safe and legal route for either of those conflicts.
Tim Loughton: Why not? (...)
Matthew Rycroft: Because the Government have not set one up. The best way to think about this is in the round, and different countries do different things in order to contribute overall to the requirement to help support people fleeing persecution.6
The eligibility criteria, type of immigration permission granted, and associated entitlements and conditions differ for each nationality-specific safe and legal route. The previous Home Secretary, Priti Patel, justified this approach on the basis that “safe and legal routes should be bespoke because every single crisis is unique.”7

What has the fact you’ve met Lineker got to do with anything?

Perhaps you need to read your own posts if you don't understand why I mentioned I have met Lineker, but then you don't seem the brightest spark so maybe not...

[BigFatPie]

Perhaps you need to read your own posts if you don't understand why I mentioned I have met Lineker, but then you don't seem the brightest spark so maybe not...

Righto.

[The_Don_ORiordan]

The fact that the thread title and news articles are all talking about Lineker and not the proposed change in law shows that what Gary has done isn’t highlight the issue, but rather distract from it.

I honestly don’t care whether a sports presenter thinks the government are nazis and posts it on twitter.

I do care about how we deal with the real problems of the world. Stick to the topic Gary if you are going to comment, don’t become the story with hyperbole, correct or not.

[OchPie]

You can't just set up a processing centre in another country I doubt very much the French would agree and they'd rather not have them and look what happened when they had the camps. It'll end up just the same as then.

The French invited us to set one up. We said no.

The likely reason is most refugees who do make it to the UK are found to have valid cases. So better to let the sea put them off and reduce the number applying, right?

There is already a processing office in France actually. This is the most frustrating part.

Not sure what you mean by this, but there isn't any way for the vast majority of refugees to apply for asylum other than getting to British soil. And that's a deliberate choice by this government.