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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissclaret View Post
    As a «*person of colour*» would Miss Abbott be willing to agree that persons of colour suffer no more discrimination than redheads? I think not.
    The Metropolitan Police have no Stop & Search policy aimed towards either Jews or Redheads S_c, I will bet next month’s pension that is what Miss Abbott was trying to say. I love Dianne but she really is not the sharpest blade in the knife box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    The Metropolitan Police have no Stop & Search policy aimed towards either Jews or Redheads S_c, I will bet next month’s pension that is what Miss Abbott was trying to say. I love Dianne but she really is not the sharpest blade in the knife box.
    So she wants Jews to be the target of stop and search as well, is that what she's saying ? She wants the UK to be more like 1930s Nazi Germany ? She may well be thick as mince, as well as anti-semitic, but I'll bet she has more sense than employ you as her defence lawyer mon ami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    So she wants Jews to be the target of stop and search as well, is that what she's saying ? She wants the UK to be more like 1930s Nazi Germany ? She may well be thick as mince, as well as anti-semitic, but I'll bet she has more sense than employ you as her defence lawyer mon ami.
    Until we eradicate racism in all of vileness mon ami, people will continue to conflate and play the race card. For holiday reading I picked up a copy of “The Survivor” by Josef Lewkowicz. Words fail me how people will use genocide to dispense with a person who mentions “Jew”. The horrors of
    Auschwitz, Mauthausen, Ebensee, Dachau and their ilk hardly justify calling Miss Abbott anti-Semitic and I despise Starmer for playing the victim of antisemitism. Six million exterminated people have the right to claim cultural victimisation, Starmer and Berger do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    The Metropolitan Police have no Stop & Search policy aimed towards either Jews or Redheads S_c, I will bet next month’s pension that is what Miss Abbott was trying to say. I love Dianne but she really is not the sharpest blade in the knife box.
    I somehow doubt that BT. She has apologised and withdrawn her comments. Being stopped and searched is not quite as bad as being sent to a gas chamber.

    She was also rambling on about apartheid in South Africa and slavery, as well as segregation in the US. Terrible, yes but now history.

    What is the point of going over and over old ground, especially when these forms of behaviour no longer exist. She would do better to focus on issues that exist now, like modern day slavery, genital mutilation, and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissclaret View Post
    I somehow doubt that BT. She has apologised and withdrawn her comments. Being stopped and searched is not quite as bad as being sent to a gas chamber.

    She was also rambling on about apartheid in South Africa and slavery, as well as segregation in the US. Terrible, yes but now history.

    What is the point of going over and over old ground, especially when these forms of behaviour no longer exist. She would do better to focus on issues that exist now, like modern day slavery, genital mutilation, and so on.
    Miss Abbott has a problem with what I would call, "hierarchical racism", she thinks racism against blacks trumps any other sort of racism.

    I'm at a loss now with anti-Semitism and what it means.

    If I support the Palestinians or denounce Israel as an apartheid state I'm anti-Semitic. I would not in any way shape or form physically attack or vilify a person who identifies as a person of the Jewish faith so the counter-balance would suggest I am not.

    Zionism is of particular interest to me because when the pogroms were being acted on in Eastern Europe many Jews fled to Argentina and it was muted this would be "home". I believe around 700,000 Jews actually live and practice their faith without fear in South America.

    The worse example of anti-Semitism to me would be to deny the Holocaust. Mentioning gypsies, travellers, redheads and "Jews" does not in my opinion make a person anti-Semitic.

    History tells us Poland, Hungary and the Ukraine participated with the Nazis in exterminating millions of Jews, how removing the Labour Party whip from Miss Abbott will help ameliorate that pain I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    History tells us Poland, Hungary and the Ukraine participated with the Nazis in exterminating millions of Jews, :
    Just as a matter of historical interest, so did France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Just as a matter of historical interest, so did France.
    Churchill and Stalin were not that fond either mon ami.

    For a long, long time I have tried to understand the hatred Jews inspire. I'm no nearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Churchill and Stalin were not that fond either mon ami.

    For a long, long time I have tried to understand the hatred Jews inspire. I'm no nearer.
    I'm a bit surprised at that mon ami, the reasons that Jews have inspired hatred throughout history are well documented, and I would have thought, well understood. I'm sure Jeremy Corbyn would be able to explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    I'm a bit surprised at that mon ami, the reasons that Jews have inspired hatred throughout history are well documented, and I would have thought, well understood. I'm sure Jeremy Corbyn would be able to explain.
    We know they killed Jesus Christ and probably run the world’s banking and media conglomerates but that’s not much of an excuse for the genocidal slaughter of six million innocent people mon ami. I get property pi$$ed off with the IDF but I do not propose single or mass murder of anyone who identifies as Jewish. As for Jeremy Corbyn that man would not harm a fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post

    I'm at a loss now with anti-Semitism and what it means.

    If I support the Palestinians or denounce Israel as an apartheid state I'm anti-Semitic. I would not in any way shape or form physically attack or vilify a person who identifies as a person of the Jewish faith so the counter-balance would suggest I am not.

    look into "Noahide Laws" BT......the second being, "not to curse God/HaShem".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

    so, being Jewish is to be a "true" child of God (at a higher level of sanctity) , therefore, speaking against the Jew, regardless of the sin.....is akin to blasphemy against YHWH.



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