Try again- the final games and who has who.

[WTF11]

What a good but sad post Joel, wholeheartedly agree with all you say, have followed Leeds and loved football of all degrees for 53 years, and I've never been so out of love for it as I have this season, none of it has been enjoyable, absolutely none, I've watched very little as I've been so despondent with our performances. I always knew the bielsa era would end, but I ever envisaged it to be as poor as this, as del boy said..."i always wanted to be a millionaire, but it's not what I thought it would be"...i feel that way about the Premier league, after 16 years it's beyond recognition, monopolised by the big 6 and fawned over by the pundits and media, nothing else matters. Wherever we end up, and I believe it will be the championship as I can't see us getting another point let alone the 5 or 6 we need, I hope we play decent exiting football so it's enjoyable again, maybe as del boy also said...... "it was the thrill of the chase to get there".

I've watched quite a bit of football, just not much of it played by Leeds as your description of what we have done is spot on. Of that I have watched, a fair bit has been the EFL coverage and frankly I have enjoyed it much more than the majority of the PL games, no matter who was playing. Of course there are some fabulous players in the "ranking" PL clubs, and their performances are usually great to watch (not perfect, quite), but as a whole, I would say that Championship football is more that exciting style that we had in our last season there and first season in the PL. It's a shame, for a host of reasons, that if we do go down we will miss the likes of Burnley and the Blades. Maybe there is history between us, but present day play and the way they are set up is very reminiscent of how Bielsa had us playing, would be nice to revisit that sooner rather than later.

There will still be teams that play fast, attractive entertaining football, the likes of Millwall, Boro, Sunderland (and for some there would be less travelling involved, fewer clubs "darn sarf" to visit!) although one of the North East clubs might up up via the playoffs. My worry is that with the kind of upheaval that Leeds would have to go through (The exec would have to go, ownership change, and a whole new player management team (head coach/manager, gk/set piece/defensive/attacking coaches etc.) brought in, and bedded in before start of the season, we just won't be in a fit state to compete with those who were "nearly there" this season.

[norfolk white]

Again, agree wholeheartedly, sadly with the expected clear out of players needed, and behind the scenes, we need a bielsa miracle worker to come in and get us going again.

[alfinyalcabo]

Just to put your minds at ease. Why you will stop up.
Game 1
V Newcastle
Howe has a very poor record against Leeds.Newcastle are not taking the chances they create and will be there for the taking.
Forecast home win Leeds 3 Pts

Game 2
V West Ham
West Ham are safe and after their semi final match next week they won't be interested as they will have probably picked up a few injuries in it and be missing top players.Their minds will be on the Final if they win the game or if they lose it they will be on a downer and not bothered about the Leeds game .Either way it's an easy game for Leeds.
Forecast away win Leeds 3 Pts
Game 3
V Spurs
You will already be safe with your 6pts from the other two games,so it will be a predictable end of season boring game with both sets of players not interested and thinking of their summer holidays as there is nothing at stake..
Forecast Leeds 1pt.
Total for Leeds will be 7points and Premier league football next season.
👍😎

[WTF11]

Just to put your minds at ease. Why you will stop up.
Game 1
V Newcastle
Howe has a very poor record against Leeds.Newcastle are not taking the chances they create and will be there for the taking.
Forecast home win Leeds 3 Pts

Game 2
V West Ham
West Ham are safe and after their semi final match next week they won't be interested as they will have probably picked up a few injuries in it and be missing top players.Their minds will be on the Final if they win the game or if they lose it they will be on a downer and not bothered about the Leeds game .Either way it's an easy game for Leeds.
Forecast away win Leeds 3 Pts
Game 3
V Spurs
You will already be safe with your 6pts from the other two games,so it will be a predictable end of season boring game with both sets of players not interested and thinking of their summer holidays as there is nothing at stake..
Forecast Leeds 1pt.
Total for Leeds will be 7points and Premier league football next season.
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You've been taking some of what HO uses!

Seriously, I'd agree with the Spam analysis, but it depends on whether we can make chances (and take them!), but not the Barcodes one. Think that as you say, Spam will have their minds elsewhere, but Newcastle will be wanting to ensure they stay in the top 4 (and the players will perform, no matter who is managing them!)

A fine run thing, whatever happens.

[joellufcprice]

A good point against Newcastle, feels like we lost 2 because of Bamford bottling his penalty but a point is more than I expected.

Just need to hope City absolutely stuff Everton to ruin their goal difference and Liverpool don't **** the bed against Leicester.

Takes it down to 2 games, definitely going to final day this.

Win vs West Ham needed

[whitestomper45]

A good point against Newcastle, feels like we lost 2 because of Bamford bottling his penalty but a point is more than I expected.

Just need to hope City absolutely stuff Everton to ruin their goal difference and Liverpool don't **** the bed against Leicester.

Takes it down to 2 games, definitely going to final day this.

Win vs West Ham needed

You should have given up on this 3 games ago

[joellufcprice]

Leicester are down.

That makes it Us, Everton or Forest.

Need 3 vs West Ham, Wolves to turn up at home against Everton and Arsenal to fight back after their pumping by Brighton at the forest

[alfinyalcabo]

Leicester are down.

That makes it Us, Everton or Forest.

Need 0 vs West Ham, Wolves to not try at home against Everton and Arsenal to roll over after their pumping by Brighton at the forest

👍😁

[spaldy]

I think Wolves will turn up. They are a proud team and playing better. If Dysche wasn't coaching I'd feel real good about this one.

we never win in London. that's why the missed 2 points will come back with a vengence.

arsenal are done. very worrisome for us.

[alfinyalcabo]

I think/hope this is accurate. Any corrections welcome

Everton to survive
Everton win gives them 36 points = Leeds down. Leicester down if they fail to win both theirs(or win both theirs and Everton win by a minimum 9 clear goals)
Everton draw gives them 34 points = Leeds down unless they beat Spurs by 3 clear goals. Leicester down unless they get 4 points from the last 2 games
Everton loss gives them 33 points = Leeds down unless they win. Leicester down unless they win one of their next 2 games

Leeds to survive
Leeds win takes them to 34 points = Everton down if they lose. Leicester down if they pick up 3 points or fewer from next 2 games

Leicester to survive
2 wins from 2 gives them 36 points. = Leeds down. Everton down unless they win by minimum 9 goals (perhaps more depending on how much Leicester improve their goal difference)
1 win and 1 draw from 2 gives them 34 points = Everton down if they fail to win. Leeds down
1 win from 2 gives them 33 points = Everton down if they lose. Leeds down if they fail to win