Try again- the final games and who has who.

[WTF11]

I don't make your point.... there is an unwritten rule what goes on in the dressing room, stays.... the 2 players however stressed should have kept their gobs shut.

Think about the nightmare appointments other clubs have had, most recently at Southampton Nathan Jones... Lumplard.. did you here any player coming out on MOTD saying the guys tactics are crap?
Bob Bradley (Swansea), Steve Kean (Blackburn), Andre Villas-Boas (Chelsea) et al.... an endless list where anybody and his dog knew it must be a nightmare, yet no player feels the need to blurt it...

And they all ended in tears. Yes, you do make my point for me, the dressing room had "gone" even before Marsch was appointed, because they will have seen the writing on the wall before we did, the obsession with a successor to Bielsa that was acceptable to the 49-ers, the swamping of the 1st team squad with players "conducive" to what the w4nks wanted, the falling-off-a-cliff-edge of the fitness regime that Bielsa insisted on, etc etc etc, all of which have led us inevitably to the disasterous situation the club finds itself in. The "unwritten rule" isn't worth the paper it's not written on.

Said it on another thread, you win as a team, you lose as a team, and in this day and age, players and their agents will not be silenced when the stupidity of those responsible for "managing" the playing side of the club are as incompetent as we have had to suffer, whether you or I like it or not.

[whitestomper45]

And far more talented players than we have, didn't feel compelled to fire some cheap shots to deflect their own performance shortcomings at the time, how many Chelski players do you hear slagging off the team/manager/club??????????????

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

It’s all if buts and maybes at the moment.

The end of the season this weekend will reveal our fate and whatever happens it seems like there will be a new chapter.

The 49ers investment arm seems to gather together astute, affluent individuals who collectively invest so if they do finally complete the takeover then there is likely to be a lot more strategic thinking and planning done that appears to have been the case in the last 18 months which can only be a good thing.

For all the frustrations of that period we are still in a far better position than 10 years ago.

We have some very good young players and should have a squad good enough for the EFL if that is where we are destined to be.

The rumours suggest Adams will stay which if true (but god knows) bode well. A fair few are coming to the end of contracts and others will be moved on.

Disappointing how the season has panned out but likely that by the end of the season/start of the next - no more Marsch, Orta or Radz which is what a lot of people wanted. suspect Kinnear will be gone too.

Let’s hope the new broom is to our liking 😎

[WTF11]

This sort of stuff is never made public... can you recall any (successful) club letting this sort of stuff out? You seem to think its OK, it's most definitely not, I would think the younger players who have been around some sort of professional set up for some time now would be confused/ a tad shocked by all this.... for me it tells me the dressing room has gone for a while now

Understanding why someone might say something (in any circumstance, about anything) doesn't mean it is approved, just that it can be understandable as to why the saying might be said. There is a kind of parallel in the NHS, where there is now a whisteblowers charter in organisation, to protect those who step outside the "formal" complaints process when things aren't addressed, perhaps there should be something like that in football (or at least LUFC! ).

[spaldy]

It’s all if buts and maybes at the moment.

The end of the season this weekend will reveal our fate and whatever happens it seems like there will be a new chapter.

The 49ers investment arm seems to gather together astute, affluent individuals who collectively invest so if they do finally complete the takeover then there is likely to be a lot more strategic thinking and planning done that appears to have been the case in the last 18 months which can only be a good thing.

For all the frustrations of that period we are still in a far better position than 10 years ago.

We have some very good young players and should have a squad good enough for the EFL if that is where we are destined to be.

The rumours suggest Adams will stay which if true (but god knows) bode well. A fair few are coming to the end of contracts and others will be moved on.

Disappointing how the season has panned out but likely that by the end of the season/start of the next - no more Marsch, Orta or Radz which is what a lot of people wanted. suspect Kinnear will be gone too.

Let’s hope the new broom is to our liking 😎

Thank you. So hard when you are going through it but I believe that you are more correct than not on this assessment.

My one big fear still is that the takeover does not happen because radz blows up the deal for more money. we are in a really bad way if that happens.

[WTF11]

Thank you. So hard when you are going through it but I believe that you are more correct than not on this assessment.

My one big fear still is that the takeover does not happen because radz blows up the deal for more money. we are in a really bad way if that happens.

The way things are developing, with Radrizzani now supposedly talking to QSI about partnering for the purchase of Sampdoria, the chances of getting anything done "at pace" are next to nothing.

The next transfer window opens mid-June (that's about three weeks away!).

The nature of the changes that are needed at LUFC;

1. Ownership

2. Selection of a new manager and coaching team (we had such a great performance on that score last time, didn't we?)

3. THEN the jumble sale of players that need to go

4. Then a (hopefully) slightly more sophisticated process of identifying and acquiring some REAL talent

Ok, some of that can be done in parallel, but until (1) is done and dusted, I don't see how much else can happen. Do all that, and get a team together that has all the kind of qualities that are so clearly absent at present, in around 8 weeks from start of transfer window (or 11 if you have the starting gun as being this Sunday)

More chance of Donald Trump being the next UK Prime Minister.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Thank you. So hard when you are going through it but I believe that you are more correct than not on this assessment.

My one big fear still is that the takeover does not happen because radz blows up the deal for more money. we are in a really bad way if that happens.

Hehe - no worries - yea it’s a shambles but it can only get better and Orta who seemed to have completely lost the plot thinking he had become a footballing genius is no more - It’s like D:ream sang - things can only get better 😎

[whitestomper45]

Understanding why someone might say something (in any circumstance, about anything) doesn't mean it is approved, just that it can be understandable as to why the saying might be said. There is a kind of parallel in the NHS, where there is now a whisteblowers charter in organisation, to protect those who step outside the "formal" complaints process when things aren't addressed, perhaps there should be something like that in football (or at least LUFC! ).

A football dressing room can’t be compared to a whistleblower situ. A team sticks together… at least it puts up a public front.
Sam Allardyce has basically rubbished the team in public now too, God knows what type of team effort it will provide… maybe it’s an extreme type of tough love for an extreme situation…

[WTF11]

A football dressing room can’t be compared to a whistleblower situ. A team sticks together… at least it puts up a public front.
Sam Allardyce has basically rubbished the team in public now too, God knows what type of team effort it will provide… maybe it’s an extreme type of tough love for an extreme situation…

Maybe, but I suspect that the Jordan piece that MT provided a link to is on the money. Relegation might just be the way that the LUFC boil gets lanced, IF the ownership issue is resolved within days, not weeks. If the dithering that we saw during the shambled after Marsch was sacked is in evidence, we are truly f00ked.

[whitestomper45]

Thrashed again… shyte performance an inept manager… players staying in an un Leeds United silence …Chelski