O/T:- Just Stop Boil

[Old_pie]

He was kinda right though, when the temperature is high enough to evaporate sweat then we fail to be able to control our body temperature which is a fact. However you can't boil in your own sweat as you have no sweat to boil in so he just worded it all wrong and tried to link it to climate change which it isn't.

If anyone has ever had heat stroke it is not at all pleasant. As I "teanager" I arrived in a mediterraneon country in summer, spent the first couple of days out walking with a friend, and was laid up in bed for a week as a result with a fever and stomach issues as best I recall.

Whilst the guy was rather naive and poorly informed so were the news (really) presenters.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...to31august2022

During the five heat-periods between June and August 2022, 56,303 deaths occurred in England and Wales and were registered by 7 September; this is 3,271 deaths (6.2%) above the five-year average.

Also see https://www.who.int/health-topics/heatwaves#tab=tab_1

So valid points totally ruined by poor research, presentation and media ignorance.

[Newish Pie]

Our media is so blatantly tilted to the left. Hence the irrational wokism we are suffering and sadly and more importantly our children and grandchildren will bare the brunt and the cost of.
It' s a refreshing alternative and actually reflects a lot of how I feel. I'm neither ashamed or afraid to say so.

If someone finds GB "news" a refreshing alternative and reflects a lot of how they feel, it's almost certainly because they're very right wing. And therefore it's not surprising that the rest of the media will appear left wing. Stands to reason.

I know we're talking mainly about TV here, but no-one can seriously argue that the print media isn't dominated by the right wing. It's been that way for ages, because... well, just look at who owns it and how it defends their interests. The BBC probably does look "lefter" than the print media, but that's not surprising given how "righter" the print media is, and always has been.

Left wing and right wing are - to some extent - relative terms as where the political centre is varies over time, and a lot of effort goes into trying to shift it one way or another. There's this useful concept called the "Overton Window"... what's inside the window is proposals that can legitimately be talked about and taken seriously... so, nationalising the trains or the utility companies is inside, nationalising the mobile phone companies is outside.

What GB "news" and Tufton Street Thinktankocracy and others are trying to do is shift the "Overton Window" as far to the right as possible. And I know people have problems with the BBC and with ITV and Sky and the rest, but they don't literally have news programme after news programme presented by hard right active political figures... this ought to be illegal under the broadcasting code, but for some reason it's not being enforced.

TV news should be politically neutral and impartial, and one of the reasons that the US is in a mess is because they've confused freedom of speech with freedom to have your own reality and to broadcast abject propaganda.

[Elite_Pie]

No evidence required it is just a matter of opinion. You know those good old fashioned things that people were allowed to have, once upon a time. Wouldn't do if we all thought the same.

Right, I'll rephrase the question.

In your opinion, what evidence can you provide to suggest that Jacob Rees-Mogg and Lee Anderson are anything other than obnoxious people?

[keldsyke]

Right, I'll rephrase the question.

In your opinion, what evidence can you provide to suggest that Jacob Rees-Mogg and Lee Anderson are anything other than obnoxious people?

Why does he need to provide evidence on anything ? Why not let him have his opinion, respect it even if you don’t agree and leave it at that?

[Elite_Pie]

Why does he need to provide evidence on anything ? Why not let him have his opinion, respect it even if you don’t agree and leave it at that?

He doesn't have to provide anything if he doesn't want to.

But he's the one stating that GB News is a balanced source.

It's dead easy to post bullsh!t if it can't be challenged.

[keldsyke]

He doesn't have to provide anything if he doesn't want to.

But he's the one stating that GB News is a balanced source.

It's dead easy to post bullsh!t if it can't be challenged.

If that’s what he thinks that’s his opinion, it’s not bull**** that’s his opinion, that’s what message boards are about people with differing opinions, if you can’t have an opinion and are hounded and persicuted for holding a different view then you’re going back to Germany in WW2, ironically extreme right wing.

[Elite_Pie]

If that’s what he thinks that’s his opinion, it’s not bull**** that’s his opinion, that’s what message boards are about people with differing opinions, if you can’t have an opinion and are hounded and persicuted for holding a different view then you’re going back to Germany in WW2, ironically extreme right wing.

So if someone says "In my opinion Boris Johnson is an honest person", it can't be challenged because it's their opinion?

I would call it bullsh!it and ask them to tell me why he is an honest person.

[Old_pie]

So if someone says "In my opinion Boris Johnson is an honest person", it can't be challenged because it's their opinion?

I would call it bullsh!it and ask them to tell me why he is an honest person.

Definition: Opinion
a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
"that, in my opinion, is right"

Opinions don't have to be factual or worthy though ill-informed opinions clearly reflect on the author of them.

[BigFatPie]

So to be clear the media, including the

BBC (in the form of very recently former chairman Tory Richard Sharp, director general Tory Tim Allen, board member Tory Robbie Gibb)

GB News(at the last count employing 4 or maybe 5 I’ve lost count currently serving Tory MPs as presenters) and

The Sun, the Telegraph, the Express the Mail, and Rupert Murdoch owned Talk TV

are left wing??!

You lads are mental.

[laddo]

He doesn't have to provide anything if he doesn't want to....

Interesting

It's dead easy to post bullsh!t if it can't be challenged.

Amen to that brother.