Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
Don't get me wrong, I am not a great fan of many in the current Labour party but whilst I am sure that Labour also posses too many endowed with ineptitude within their ranks, I also believe that they will not demonstrate the levels of self interest and corruption that the highest echelons of the current Tory Party have.

There are no easy fixes for any party coming in and expectations will therefore be unlikely to be met but whilst global events such as covid and the war in Ukraine have had a huge impact, so many more of the problems the country now faces are down to years of Tory rule. It will take time to tackle these.

As for talk of Thatcher, she was the most divisive PM the country has ever had. The reason is clear-a great many suffered under her reign but a great many also benefited. This cannot be said of the current lot of Tories. Thatcher may also have certainly lacked empathy like the current Tory Party leadership but she did have ability and I'm sure that, for all her faults, she would not have allowed the levels of corruption demonstrated by them.

Tactical voting is far from ideal in a democracy but in a overwhelmingly two party system, when the Tories have been this bad what other choice is there?
Thatcher was divisive by design , that was the whole point of her policies .

To divide the working class by making 50% better off at the expense of the other 50% .

What they didn't envisage is the depth of division it would lead to or the fact that the Tories need working class votes as much as Labour do .

Thatcher simply thought everyone would end up middle class at some time in the future through her policies .

I suspect it never entered her head that to attract enough voters to go along with her core support they'd have to turn this far right to retain power one day and it would completely trash the party for potentially good .