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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    I agree with temporary visas. So we are in agreement a temporary visa to every illegal to pay for their free barge and lodgings? In the world of purchasing ( my background ) there's no such thing as a free lunch!

    Decline the temporary visa then immediate deportation? You can't argue with that 123. I would also extend this principle of working to numerous lazy Brits being forced to take jobs or benefits get cut!
    Why should someone work full time to live in prison like conditions? Treat these people with a bit of respect.

    We should offer temporary visas for areas where we have job shortages such as fruit picking, drivers etc. and utilise any skills they may have. And in return they should have somewhere comfortable to live, they would be paying taxes into our system don't forget.

    You talk about no such thing as a free lunch...the people who you should really be directing your anger at are not the people who come here with nothing, but the ones who have their cake and eat it in politics. The siphoning off of funds from some of these people with Tory links, in addition to the disaster that is Brexit, has cost this country far more than a few of these Asylum Seekers on a barge.

    Seems to me your anger is misdirected, and has been deliberately manipulated by others.

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    I do think a countries rules and government actions should match the values of the majority of the country. The majority of the country don’t want illegal immigration. It’s a complicated topic that does IMO need a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

    That said Lee Anderson shows awful leadership qualities and his comments, as other posters say, is very disrespectful. I worry about how his actions could lead to significant unintended consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Why should someone work full time to live in prison like conditions? Treat these people with a bit of respect.

    We should offer temporary visas for areas where we have job shortages such as fruit picking, drivers etc. and utilise any skills they may have. And in return they should have somewhere comfortable to live, they would be paying taxes into our system don't forget.

    You talk about no such thing as a free lunch...the people who you should really be directing your anger at are not the people who come here with nothing, but the ones who have their cake and eat it in politics. The siphoning off of funds from some of these people with Tory links, in addition to the disaster that is Brexit, has cost this country far more than a few of these Asylum Seekers on a barge.

    Seems to me your anger is misdirected, and has been deliberately manipulated by others.

    So are you saying every citizen in this country will live in better conditions than these barges and have access to free food and beverages?

    Have you been to any rough tower blocks where some people are working in 2/3 jobs to survive? Probably not!

    Are you also suggesting these barges will be a down grade to the accommodation where they have left?

    You could always have an illegal in one of your spare rooms!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    So are you saying every citizen in this country will live in better conditions than these barges and have access to free food and beverages?

    Have you been to any rough tower blocks where some people are working in 2/3 jobs to survive? Probably not!

    Are you also suggesting these barges will be a down grade to the accommodation where they have left?

    You could always have an illegal in one of your spare rooms!
    I don't know why you compare people at the bottom end of society with Asylum Seekers. Its divide and conquer tactics that is working on you and so many others.

    Do you know the waste that this Govt has presided over? Why aren't you up in arms about that instead of this? It boggles my mind, it really does.

    Read my post on the other thread about Calais, about what to expect on a barge. I couldn't put up with that.

    And also ask yourself why we're putting them on a fe(king barge in the first place, its because the Tories have come up with no solution to this problem, only made it worse. For the millionth time, you're pointing your finger at the wrong group of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    I don't know why you compare people at the bottom end of society with Asylum Seekers. Its divide and conquer tactics that is working on you and so many others.

    Do you know the waste that this Govt has presided over? Why aren't you up in arms about that instead of this? It boggles my mind, it really does.

    Read my post on the other thread about Calais, about what to expect on a barge. I couldn't put up with that.

    And also ask yourself why we're putting them on a fe(king barge in the first place, its because the Tories have come up with no solution to this problem, only made it worse. For the millionth time, you're pointing your finger at the wrong group of people.

    Most of your post I agree on and angry about the corrupt bunch that lead the government and the wastage on Covid. Still say the barge is more than adequate and 99% sure better than what they had in their land of war and persecution. That said, must have missed their fear of life and bombs in Albania. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

    Why should illegals get better than the bottom of the society ( as you call it )? Many of the bottom of the society can't afford to eat and would welcome 3 meals a day and their laundry done. If you had two jobs, lived in a rough tower block, struggled to feed your kids - don't tell me you wouldn't be angry on the money thrown at illegals!

    Also why is France not good enough as clearly the barge must be an upgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Most of your post I agree on and angry about the corrupt bunch that lead the government and the wastage on Covid. Still say the barge is more than adequate and 99% sure better than what they had in their land of war and persecution. That said, must have missed their fear of life and bombs in Albania. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

    Why should illegals get better than the bottom of the society ( as you call it )? Many of the bottom of the society can't afford to eat and would welcome 3 meals a day and their laundry done. If you had two jobs, lived in a rough tower block, struggled to feed your kids - don't tell me you wouldn't be angry on the money thrown at illegals!

    Also why is France not good enough as clearly the barge must be an upgrade?
    Instead of blaming 'illegals' for the people who can't afford to eat, you should blame our Govt. That is my whole entire point. You should be angry with them. Immigrants on that barge haven't contributed to people here starving, we've done that ourselves to our own people.

    Your last sentence provides no logic, Why don't France ask if Germany isn't good enough. Why don't Germany ask if Hungary isn't good enough, why don't they stop in Greece? We take in far fewer refugees than France, Germany and most of western Europe. What more do you want? Why are you so obsessed with it?

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