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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    And later us being relegated from L2, when macclesfield had not paid anybody for months, and never even started in L2 the following season, It was a disgrace how they were not deducted points or thrown out the season they pipped us, and sent us down, Not that it matters now, as we have recovered
    I said the same on another fred. Shame they didn't bring this rule in a few seasons earlier.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60419602

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    Not football news I wanted to wake up to.

    Never been to Roots Hall, only driven past it but when I think of Sarfend I think of early to mid 90s and watch Ricky Otto and Co against a Derby or similar on Central TVs chosen Sunday game from the Championship whilst slowly doing homework.

    Been a little talk of Southend being a potential threat (dark horses) to the clear favourites (5/2) Chesterfield following last season's efforts but I note this morning the Es*** sides odds have dramatically dropped these past couple of days from 16/1 to 33/1. Information only.

    If you aren't run well, have a dodgy owner, are a mess off the field with serious problems ultimately you've got no chance of success on it. From a distance Maher seemed to do a great job last season in incredibly difficult circumstances but after a while they got too much and they fell away.

    Wish them well obviously.
    Well your answer did not surprise me Laddo
    Always the same bad owners bad team which there is some justification to
    But not in our case, you blame Hardy, yet Macclesfield were more of a basket case than us, starting at 7 points behind us, worse financial problems- when Campbell became their manager , and yet still finished above us, That was Ardley,s fault as a poor manager in L2

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    Quote Originally Posted by durhampie View Post
    There's nothing like kicking a club when they are down..
    Well that life, when people or clubs or organisations are down - they are weaker targets to attack ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    And later us being relegated from L2, when macclesfield had not paid anybody for months, and never even started in L2 the following season, It was a disgrace how they were not deducted points or thrown out the season they pipped us, and sent us down, Not that it matters now, as we have recovered
    Let's be fair here, we also wasn't paying wages!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    Let's be fair here, we also wasn't paying wages!
    That was later after the season ended, for the months of June and July which the new owners paid
    At macclesfield it was far earlier in 2019,with players not being paid for 3 months during the actual season with 6 players putting in a winding up order against macclesfield, yet nothing was done

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    I've not made it clear that those figures are for how many separate punishments were issued each decade, not the grand total of accumulated points taken away.

    The full list.... in reverse order (top 4 tiers only)

    16th Aug 2023 Reading
    Start 2023/24 Wigan Ath.
    4th Apr 2023 Reading
    20th Mar 2023 Wigan Ath.
    17th Nov 2021 Reading
    22nd Sep 2021 Derby County
    Start 2020/21 Sheffield Wed
    22nd Jul 2020 Wigan Ath.
    19th Dec 2019 Macclesfield
    18th Jul 2019 Bury
    Start 2019/20 Bolton W.
    22nd Mar 2019 Birmingham C.
    End of 2015/16 Bury
    24th Apr 2015 Rotherham Utd
    28th Apr 2014 Wimbledon
    2nd Aug 2013 Coventry City
    20th Apr 2013 Portsmouth
    28th Mar 2013 Coventry City
    9th Mar 2012 Port Vale
    17th Feb 2012 Portsmouth
    6th Apr 2011 Torquay Utd
    6th Apr 2011 Hereford
    22nd Feb 2011 Plymouth Arg.
    6th May 2010 Hartlepool U.
    17th Mar 2010 Portsmouth
    28th Jan 2010 Crystal P.
    Start 2009/10 Southampton
    1st Jun 2009 Crystal P.
    30th Apr 2009 Stockport Co
    25th Feb 2009 Darlington
    7th Aug 2008 Rotherham Utd
    10th Jul 2008 Luton Town
    8th Aug 2008 Bournemouth
    21st Mar 2008 Rotherham Utd
    8th Feb 2008 Bournemouth
    23rd Nov 2007 Luton Town
    3rd Aug 2007 Leeds United
    18th May 2007 Boston Utd
    4th May 2007 Leeds United
    Start 2006/07 Rotherham Utd
    25th May 2006 Bury
    29th Apr 2005 Cambridge Utd
    3rd Dec 2004 Wrexham
    19th Jul 2002 Boston Utd
    3rd May 2001 Chesterfield
    17th Apr 1998 Leyton Orient
    14th Jan 1997 Middlesbrough
    9th Dec 1996 Brighton & HA
    12th Nov 1990 Manchester U.
    12th Nov 1990 Arsenal
    13th Nov 1987 Halifax Town
    8th Oct 1987 Tranmere Rov
    17th Jan 1983 Blackpool
    10th May 1982 Mansfield T.
    12th Apr 1982 Bristol Rov
    9th Sep 1974 Aldershot
    28th Mar 1974 Newport Co.
    21st Dec 1973 Preston NE
    13th May 1968 Peterborough
    26th Mar 1927 Stockport Co
    19th Oct 1890 Sunderland
    Wigan and Reading both stand outs in that they’ve both been deducted points three times each in recent years. Going further down the list clubs pop up a couple of times in a short period like Rotherham, Bury, Portsmouth.

    Interestingly Torquay, Bury, Hereford, Chesterfield, Boston, Darlington, Hartlepool and Macclesfield have all paid the ultimate price as they are football league clubs no more. That’s eight clubs which is effectively over 10% of EFL clubs in the past fif**** years.

    Points deductions has done nothing but add insult to injury to these clubs, and others who have dropped down the leagues. As I said earlier in the thread it’s not punishing those directly responsible and that’s where rules and regulations have to change. The focus should be on protecting the clubs, their staff, players and fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    Well your answer did not surprise me Laddo
    Always the same bad owners bad team which there is some justification to
    But not in our case, you blame Hardy, yet Macclesfield were more of a basket case than us, starting at 7 points behind us, worse financial problems- when Campbell became their manager , and yet still finished above us, That was Ardley,s fault as a poor manager in L2
    I think Laddos still banned Davy.

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    Incredible how Notts have managed to avoid being on that list, going through what we have over the past 20 odd years.
    We would have been on it had the admin rule been brought in earlier.

    Arsenal and Man United's points deductions in 1990 was over a mass brawl. Again, it's a wonder we didn't get one for "The battle of London Road" when Craig Short was in charge, described at the time as the most violent football match ever by one tabloid.

    One team did once get points added rather than taken away - Scunny awarded 2 points on 25/Apr/1974 after Exeter failed to fulfil a fixture against them.

    Deductions reinstated on appeal:
    Notts County 04/Dec/1889-27/Dec/1889 deducted 1 point for fielding an ineligible player
    Swansea City 25/Mar/1987-23/Apr/1987 deducted 3 pts for failing to fulfil an away fixture
    Doncaster Rovers 22/Oct/1987-09/Dec/1987 deducted 2 pts for failing to fulfil an away fixture
    Tottenham Hotspur 17/Oct/1988-30/Nov/1988 deducted 2 pts for the late postponement of their opening fixture
    In June 1994 Tottenham were given a 12 points reduction to be imposed at the end of the 1994/95 season, reduced on appeal on 6th July 1994 - A six point reduction continued to hang over them until a further appeal quashed it altogether on 9th December 1994.

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    Play is halted for four minutes as angry Southend United fans throw tennis balls onto the pitch...

    https://twitter.com/CJPhillips1982/status/1695148695719641441?s=20

    Southend leading 2-0 at half time. Noor Husin with the opener.
    Last edited by SwalePie; 25-08-2023 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    Play is halted for four minutes as angry Southend United fans throw tennis balls onto the pitch...

    https://twitter.com/CJPhillips1982/status/1695148695719641441?s=20

    Southend leading 2-0 at half time. Noor Husin with the opener.
    Southend win 2-0 and although they are still bottom on -1 points, after 5 games they have wiped out 9 of their 10 point deduction.

    Without the points penalty they would be in 4th place.

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