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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    So you’re not happy with MT then?
    A lot of new posters on here are incredibly negative about the millers mmmmmm. Strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back of the net View Post
    A lot of new posters on here are incredibly negative about the millers mmmmmm. Strange
    Facts are facts, whoever posts them
    Taylor has been a disaster so far
    When PW left, we had 18 points from 11 games, and a GD of +7
    We finished the season with 32 points from the remaining 35 games and a GD of -18
    The form over those games was so bad that if we'd performed like that over the entire season, we'd have been relegated (Wigan would have finished just below us ONLY because of the points deduction)
    And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

    That's why I'm negative about Taylor....
    But if that's what you want from a manager, that's your choice.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Facts are facts, whoever posts them
    Taylor has been a disaster so far
    When PW left, we had 18 points from 11 games, and a GD of +7
    We finished the season with 32 points from the remaining 35 games and a GD of -18
    The form over those games was so bad that if we'd performed like that over the entire season, we'd have been relegated (Wigan would have finished just below us ONLY because of the points deduction)
    And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

    That's why I'm negative about Taylor....
    But if that's what you want from a manager, that's your choice.....
    What a fatuous argument. Bare facts with no context or perspective whatsoever. We'll never know how PWs team would have finished up had he not left, but leave he did leaving the club in a likely perilous position. Your whole argument presupposes that Warne's team would have maintained some form at least as good as what Taylor's did. It may have been worse and we'd have been relegated! We certainly didn't look like maintaining that early season point haul...but you never know, we might have rode our luck all season and won the league....who knows?!!!!

    To call Taylor a "disaster" is typical of the knee-jerk, emotional/panicky schoolgirl crap that we regularly get on here. Nobody can argue about the points haul so far but the whole club and team has a much more positive and professional feel about it. FFs give the man some time and support before making such critical statements. He's had nowhere near enough time to make his mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redshank View Post
    What a fatuous argument. Bare facts with no context or perspective whatsoever. We'll never know how PWs team would have finished up had he not left, but leave he did leaving the club in a likely perilous position. Your whole argument presupposes that Warne's team would have maintained some form at least as good as what Taylor's did. It may have been worse and we'd have been relegated! We certainly didn't look like maintaining that early season point haul...but you never know, we might have rode our luck all season and won the league....who knows?!!!!

    To call Taylor a "disaster" is typical of the knee-jerk, emotional/panicky schoolgirl crap that we regularly get on here. Nobody can argue about the points haul so far but the whole club and team has a much more positive and professional feel about it. FFs give the man some time and support before making such critical statements. He's had nowhere near enough time to make his mark.
    I didn't make any counterfactual claims about what would have happened if Warne had stayed, I merely pointed out the club record under MT is not good enough

    The form over MT's 40 league and 44 league and cup games is bottom of the league form, even with the win over Norwich, even with the most expensive team in the club's history
    If we hadn't had such a good start under Warne, then the MT results last season would have taken us down
    just looking at league games MT's record for us is now P 40, 36 points, GD -22
    That's what I'm judging him on

    That said, I'll say again that I think that defence and midfield is good enough to stay up this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post

    And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season
    I don’t think EFL rules allow you to go back in time and win games you’ve already played for breaking your transfer record. “The most expensive” team in our history hasn’t played any games yet, and will likely need a bit of time to bed in. But I have a feeling they aren’t going to get it from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaufighter View Post
    I don’t think EFL rules allow you to go back in time and win games you’ve already played for breaking your transfer record. “The most expensive” team in our history hasn’t played any games yet, and will likely need a bit of time to bed in. But I have a feeling they aren’t going to get it from you.
    We’ve also played 4 games, not sure why hes fetching cup into it when there was fringe players

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Facts are facts, whoever posts them
    Taylor has been a disaster so far
    When PW left, we had 18 points from 11 games, and a GD of +7
    We finished the season with 32 points from the remaining 35 games and a GD of -18
    The form over those games was so bad that if we'd performed like that over the entire season, we'd have been relegated (Wigan would have finished just below us ONLY because of the points deduction)
    And now, the most expensive Rotherham team in history, has lost 4 and drawn 2 this season

    That's why I'm negative about Taylor....
    But if that's what you want from a manager, that's your choice.....

    Facts or facts…
    Paul warne left after the middlesborough Match, game 9, we had only 14 points.
    Matt Taylor first day in charge was against Millwall.

    If you look at the points from then we weren't relegated and still wouldn’t have been relegated even allowing for the points deductions.

    Before the Millwall game…
    Reading were 7 points ahead of us. ( finished 6 points behind ) give them back the 6 points deduction, still 7 points less during Matt Taylor time.
    Wigan were 2 points ahead of us. ( finished 8 points behind ) give them 3 points deduction, still 7 points behind.
    Blackpool were 3 points behind. ( finished 6 points behind )
    Also QPR had a worse points tally, they were 4 points ahead, finished level.

    Felt it necessary to correct the previously stated facts, some of the stats sites have errors based on match rounds. I believe the errors come from cancelled games like the Sheff utd match, original scheduled under Paul Wayne reign but was cancelled due the sad passing of the of the more significant reign of HM the queen.
    The rearranged game was under mat Taylor but some stat to sites credit it to Paul warne time in error.

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