Saints slipping Halo apparently.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

We will never know as impossible to say what would have actually happened but we would have survived in some form or other.

Not sure which I dislike the most that Bates was owner and Chairman or that Colin was manager.

A dark dark period.

[WTF11]

We will never know as impossible to say what would have actually happened but we would have survived in some form or other.

Not sure which I dislike the most that Bates was owner and Chairman or that Colin was manager.

A dark dark period.

Yes we do (know what would have actually happened). Both the FA and HMRC were determined to see LUFC obliterated, and attempted over three years after Bates took ownership of LUFC to contest the process of transfer of ownership, and sought to impose payment conditions
of outstanding debt that would, if successful have bankrupted the legal entity that was LUFC. Bates fought that attempt and saw both the FA & HMRC abandon their attempts to impose sanctions and the resulting insolvency of the club which after previous events would have led to the obliteration of LUFC.

They wanted to see the back of LUFC, and Bates prevented that, of that there is unequivocal evidence, try and find an alternative conclusion.

Saviour? No. As I said earlier, necessary evil? You betcha.(The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for a time))

Yes, I'm replying to YOU.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Yes we do (know what would have actually happened). Both the FA and HMRC were determined to see LUFC obliterated, and attempted over three years after Bates took ownership of LUFC to contest the process of transfer of ownership, and sought to impose payment conditions
of outstanding debt that would, if successful have bankrupted the legal entity that was LUFC. Bates fought that attempt and saw both the FA & HMRC abandon their attempts to impose sanctions and the resulting insolvency of the club which after previous events would have led to the obliteration of LUFC.

They wanted to see the back of LUFC, and Bates prevented that, of that there is unequivocal evidence, try and find an alternative conclusion.

Saviour? No. As I said earlier, necessary evil? You betcha.(The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for a time))

Yes, I'm replying to YOU.

Suggest you read the accounts and information from the time - if you are talking about the administration when Bates was in control - there were other offers but the way Bates had structured the club at the time meant there was no chance of it being sold to anyone else - lots of very good articles at the time which did a lot of background digging.

The fall from grace from the Prem he had has Chelsea cash but there were others in the background.

As such, you just don’t know but you did say he saves the club which I am pretty sure is a stretch at best.

A lot of what he did took years to unwind.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Fair to say I am not sure we will ever agree on that one especially the admin and L1 as there were other people in the background.

Another reason to be grateful the 49ers are now in charge.