Careless Tories!

[Andy_Faber]

Heartening to see last night that Labour appear to be trying to step up to the plate on incompetence, evasion and stumbling over their lines. Attorney General Emily Thornberry, so up herself she SHOULD be a Conservative, making an absolute Horlicks of defending Starmer’s status of being pro starvation of the Gazans. And she wasn’t even being grilled by a proper interviewer, just Victoria Derbyshire

Truly preparing for Government

[ramAnag]

Heartening to see last night that Labour appear to be trying to step up to the plate on incompetence, evasion and stumbling over their lines. Attorney General Emily Thornberry, so up herself she SHOULD be a Conservative, making an absolute Horlicks of defending Starmer’s status of being pro starvation of the Gazans. And she wasn’t even being grilled by a proper interviewer, just Victoria Derbyshire

Truly preparing for Government

Emily Thornberry has never been one of my favourite politicians, AF...however to question Labour’s readiness for government and compare the level of incompetence to that of the current regime on the basis of one person’s reaction to the latest Israeli based crisis seems a tad harsh.
When you’re dealing with such utterly atrocious and inhumane behaviour on both sides and a problem which has existed, in one form or another, throughout all our lives I’d imagine finding a clearly thought out answer is more than a little difficult.
I think ‘preparing for government’ needs to be shown on the basis of planning for, in no particular order, the NHS, Education, Transport, Housing, Climate/Energy, the environment, the ongoing implications of Brexit, and our economy in general...getting our own ‘house in order’...rather than utterances on the terrible and senseless Israel/Hamas conflict.

[Andy_Faber]

Emily Thornberry has never been one of my favourite politicians, AF...however to question Labour’s readiness for government and compare the level of incompetence to that of the current regime on the basis of one person’s reaction to the latest Israeli based crisis seems a tad harsh.
When you’re dealing with such utterly atrocious and inhumane behaviour on both sides and a problem which has existed, in one form or another, throughout all our lives I’d imagine finding a clearly thought out answer is more than a little difficult.
I think ‘preparing for government’ needs to be shown on the basis of planning for, in no particular order, the NHS, Education, Transport, Housing, Climate/Energy, the environment, the ongoing implications of Brexit, and our economy in general...getting our own ‘house in order’...rather than utterances on the terrible and senseless Israel/Hamas conflict.

You need to see the interview rA. Starmer has had plenty of time to get his stance on such conflicts together, and he's decided it's right to starve a population of innocents. Fair enough. My observation was Thornberry's failure to answer a direct question asked multiple times. Depressingly like the current administration IMHO

Glad we share an opinion on the woman herself anyway

[ramAnag]

You need to see the interview rA. Starmer has had plenty of time to get his stance on such conflicts together, and he's decided it's right to starve a population of innocents. Fair enough. My observation was Thornberry's failure to answer a direct question asked multiple times. Depressingly like the current administration IMHO

Glad we share an opinion on the woman herself anyway

Yep, fair point. I concede I haven’t seen the interview...my point is, I don’t think any foreign government has actually got a grip on that particular situation in the last seventy years so it’s a bit tough to judge them over that as regards their suitability for government.

[ramAnag]

Very careless losing two majorities of around 43k between them on the same evening! Still, that’s what happens when you have MP’s that are ‘careless’ about, in one case, their behaviour and, in the other, actually doing their job.

[Andy_Faber]

Very careless losing two majorities of around 43k between them on the same evening! Still, that’s what happens when you have MP’s that are ‘careless’ about, in one case, their behaviour and, in the other, actually doing their job.

A bit careless although a combination of protest vote and Tory reluctance to vote in mid term stuff anyway may see a reversal here (though less likely in the election). What it does seem to point to is (to paraphrase a friend) the lib dems being the video 2000 of UK politics (maybe Onthemarket would be a more current analogy)

[ramAnag]

Hmmm...not sure the Lib Dems are the story here, AF. The swing is enormous although the majority is now slim so both seats may be vulnerable at the next GE. For me though, the real story is that of a largely Tory inclined electorate recognising two morally bankrupt candidates as being accurately representative of a Party who, since 2019 at least, have proved as incompetent as they are devoid of decency.

[MadAmster]

Hmmm...not sure the Lib Dems are the story here, AF. The swing is enormous although the majority is now slim so both seats may be vulnerable at the next GE. For me though, the real story is that of a largely Tory inclined electorate recognising two morally bankrupt candidates as being accurately representative of a Party who, since 2019 at least, have proved as incompetent as they are devoid of decency.

You know the story...




.... never trust a Tory

[SithHappens]

Agree a lot will be down to Tory voters staying away but how long can they keep getting trounced without calling an election. They have lost credibility, hold an election and if somehow they win so be it, at least it gives them a mandate to govern.

[macstheman]

They'll hang on like limpet mines Sith and continue to do as much damage!