Tonali

[Sclox]

Seriously?? It doesnt matter.. no one should be drinking and driving..

I get that some people may have different views on the whole Tonali thing.. but he is 23 years old... he turned 23 in May.. so 22 or younger when this betting happened...

22... how many stupid things did you do at 22 because I know how daft I was..

He has made a mistake, he won't be the first or the last Newcastle player to make a mistake either.. he gets his punishment and we move on..

Joey Barton went to jail whilst playing for us........ he is loved by most Newcastle fans.. he also was banned for 18 month for illegal betting

So... thats Joelinton, Trippier and Barton off the top of my head who all broke the law.. Lets not forget Ghadoussi ... but it is Tonali who gets the most flack?

If you don't want to support him then don't, it is your prerogative but you also need to hold others with the same disdain when they do something illegal..

Can I ask you a serious question?

Which is worse:

Illegal betting
Drink Driving
Assault and Affray
Human Right Atrocities in Saudi Arabia

4,2,3,1 in order. Number 4 is a whole different discussion and shouldn't come into this debate.

I know I might get flack when I say this but I don't care about the illegal betting at all. I care more about the non disclosure of it when we signed him but for all we know it was disclosed and kept quiet.

I support him and the club. There are much worse things going on in the world to get upset about.

[ex_pat_magpie]

4,2,3,1 in order. Number 4 is a whole different discussion and shouldn't come into this debate.

I know I might get flack when I say this but I don't care about the illegal betting at all. I care more about the non disclosure of it when we signed him but for all we know it was disclosed and kept quiet.

I support him and the club. There are much worse things going on in the world to get upset about.

I would agree with this order also. And as an aside, with regards to drink driving, stats show that approximately 10% of accidents are due to drink driving, would therefor the computer or perhaps A.I. show that if you then ban all sober drivers you would prevent 90% of road accidents.

[Jammy89]

4,2,3,1 in order. Number 4 is a whole different discussion and shouldn't come into this debate.

I know I might get flack when I say this but I don't care about the illegal betting at all. I care more about the non disclosure of it when we signed him but for all we know it was disclosed and kept quiet.

I support him and the club. There are much worse things going on in the world to get upset about.

Aye.

Well said.

[Tutfoster1892]

4,2,3,1 in order. Number 4 is a whole different discussion and shouldn't come into this debate.

I know I might get flack when I say this but I don't care about the illegal betting at all. I care more about the non disclosure of it when we signed him but for all we know it was disclosed and kept quiet.

I support him and the club. There are much worse things going on in the world to get upset about.

Basically yes..

I'm not going to hate on a player just because he made a mistake with illegal betting....

[HughieG]

Basically yes..

I'm not going to hate on a player just because he made a mistake with illegal betting....

Me neither - unless he knowingly put the club in a problematic situation by coming here and leaving Milan. Even so, he still deserves forgiveness if he puts in the maximum effort to get back and fight for the shirt.

Still a lot of details missing on this one.

[toptoon]

Not sure why he deserves forgiveness? What do the footballers who loved gambling but stopped because they became footballers deserve?
Sign of the times in the West - full attention on the perpetrator of the ‘crime’ in a ‘holier than thou’ rush to be the first to defend and offer forgiveness.
The party that’s been wronged in all this is NUFC. I want what’s best for the club going forward. If that means giving Tonali full support then so be it. Footballers these days put themselves first and clubs second. Our club should do the same.

[Tutfoster1892]

Not sure why he deserves forgiveness? What do the footballers who loved gambling but stopped because they became footballers deserve?
Sign of the times in the West - full attention on the perpetrator of the ‘crime’ in a ‘holier than thou’ rush to be the first to defend and offer forgiveness.
The party that’s been wronged in all this is NUFC. I want what’s best for the club going forward. If that means giving Tonali full support then so be it. Footballers these days put themselves first and clubs second. Our club should do the same.

I get what you are saying..

But what I will say is, I put myself before my employer.. I wouldn't blame any footballer for doing the same

[HughieG]

Sign of the times in the West - full attention on the perpetrator of the ‘crime’ in a ‘holier than thou’ rush to be the first to defend and offer forgiveness.

Sorry TT, that has nothing to do with this case and is far off the mark. Disagree with your analysis completely here.

Each to their own!

[Cannylad]

Not sure why he deserves forgiveness? What do the footballers who loved gambling but stopped because they became footballers deserve?
Sign of the times in the West - full attention on the perpetrator of the ‘crime’ in a ‘holier than thou’ rush to be the first to defend and offer forgiveness.
The party that’s been wronged in all this is NUFC. I want what’s best for the club going forward. If that means giving Tonali full support then so be it. Footballers these days put themselves first and clubs second. Our club should do the same.

With you 100% on that, why do we all have to walk on eggshells around certain players in fear of offending them. Tonali screwed up royally and he has admitted that, the biggest loser here is Newcastle Utd. He needs to get his head down now and prepare to come back after his ban, whatever that may be, as a better player. I'm sure he will be forgiven by the vast majority of fans.