Is freezing Council tax fair to

[islaydarkblue]

Absolutely. Allowing this current administration to manage anything would be an absolute disaster. Slater, Robison, Yousaf all disasters in their portfolio areas. Fitzpatrick during covid. Couldn't even read something from a piece of paper. Two of the afore-mentioned, embarrassingly, represent Dundee.

There is a well known saying that people are promoted to their level of incompetence which certainly fits the bill for the above mentioned useless MSPs.

[Deeranged]

There is a well known saying that people are promoted to their level of incompetence which certainly fits the bill for the above mentioned useless MSPs.

The Peter Principle, seen it many times.

[islaydarkblue]

The Peter Principle, seen it many times.

Sadly two wrongs does not make a right.

[BCram]

I think that politicians of all persuasions are being found out. Eventually turkeys come home to roost. SNP might still retain power through a mixture of Green second votes by those who will remain loyal to SNP

[noahrab]

I think that politicians of all persuasions are being found out. Eventually turkeys come home to roost. SNP might still retain power through a mixture of Green second votes by those who will remain loyal to SNP

Cults (sp)

[islaydarkblue]

I think that politicians of all persuasions are being found out. Eventually turkeys come home to roost. SNP might still retain power through a mixture of Green second votes by those who will remain loyal to SNP

That is why Yousef is handing out money to ‘all and sundry’ including a Council tax freeze next year as he is trying to bribe the voters into voting SNP at the next General Election despite having not previously worked out the cost of this funding and where the money was coming from to pay for the cost of all these handouts.

[BCram]

Is there any "set of accounts" for the Scottish Parliament.
simple stuff
Income from Westminster £2, income from local taxes £2, income from Investments £0.05=Total Income £4.05

Expenditure, Fire Service £0.01 Local Government £0.01, Health Service £0.02, Transport £0.01, Politicians etc £5 = Total Expenditure £5.05

Deficit For Year £1

they manage to show council tax expenditure in a fairly straightforward way so why not do something similar for Holyrood. Needs to be created by the politicians so that they can be held accountable and not suffer the fate of GERS which is the start of an argument.

[noahrab]

Is there any "set of accounts" for the Scottish Parliament.
simple stuff
Income from Westminster £2, income from local taxes £2, income from Investments £0.05=Total Income £4.05

Expenditure, Fire Service £0.01 Local Government £0.01, Health Service £0.02, Transport £0.01, Politicians etc £5 = Total Expenditure £5.05

Deficit For Year £1

they manage to show council tax expenditure in a fairly straightforward way so why not do something similar for Holyrood. Needs to be created by the politicians so that they can be held accountable and not suffer the fate of GERS which is the start of an argument.

We’ve been waiting since before the referendum for an economic case….still waiting.

GERS is the closest you’ll get and is considered the ‘gold standard’ by the executive…but will only tell you that if it shows a surplus.

[islaydarkblue]

[QUOTE=noahrab;40376364]We’ve been waiting since before the referendum for an economic case….still waiting.

GERS is the closest you’ll get and is considered the ‘gold standard’ by the executive…but will only tell you that if it shows a surplus.[/QUOTE
The GERS figures for Scotland are aptly named as they are similar to the financial figures when Craig Whyte was in charge of running Glasgow Rangers.
The Scottish Government would be bankrupt if it did not have the income from the Barnett Formula as the GERS figures year after year prove that the Scottish Government spends a lot more than it would have if all taxes in Scotland were sent to Holyrood instead of going to the U.K. Treasury at Westminster

[BCram]

Was hoping to keep topic away from words like Barnett and formula. Much prefer Noah's approach. Simple economic case with numbers that everyone can understand.
Freezing of tax free pay is having a massive effect on the amount collected via income tax. Supposed to be £8bn per year but now predicted to be £75bn by the time the freeze is reviewed. Policy introduced by hated Tories. How about SNP uprating allowance thresholds?