Romared Match Thoughts Lincoln City v Barnsley

[perkytyke]

It’s going to be very interesting as we have a run of games coming that we should win, if it goes the other way I can see Collins being sacked before January to allow a new man to bring in a couple of cheap additions.
My choice would be Redders, he’s good with younger players he can mould and we have enough of them, plus he knows the club.

[Young_Nudger]

I actually think with better players at his disposal the style of play he's trying to go with would suit us better going forward .

If we got promoted with players who can pass the ball , keep possession and are all comfortable we'd do very well in the championship rather than the hoof ball up to brainless meatheads which you prefer to describe as the Barnsley way .

Hopefully in January he gets the players he wants to play the way he wants .

Players that can play possession football usually cost £££ Millions.
If we go into the Championship and try to play like for like with teams such as WBA then we will get slaughtered.
Hence my suggestion that Collins needs to go -
no matter it we get promoted or not.

It’s not as though Barnsley haven’t been shown how high energy high press football works.
Ismael who finished 5th in the Championship showed us that.
If he had stayed and with the addition of a few more players there was a good chance of winning promotion to the Premier the following season.

[Shadrack the Red]

Players that can play possession football usually cost £££ Millions.
If we go into the Championship and try to play like for like with teams such as WBA then we will get slaughtered.
Hence my suggestion that Collins needs to go -
no matter it we get promoted or not.

It’s not as though Barnsley haven’t been shown how high energy high press football works.
Ismael who finished 5th in the Championship showed us that.
If he had stayed and with the addition of a few more players there was a good chance of winning promotion to the Premier the following season.

I actually agree with you on that one, the owners should have invested & gone for it but decided to cash in on the manager & key players & the rest as they say is history , a shambolic relegation followed , cue rinse & repeat !! It really is time these owners put the for sale sign up & looked to move on , they have once again sold the manager short , they have sold the family silver & sold Collins down the river , they have zero ambition .

[pass_and_move]

The issue in hand here isn't the football, its the fact that our defenders are of a very poor standard. It'll take them too much time to adapt (if they can at all) and it's to the detriment of the teams results.

Watching both the Derby and the Lincoln games recently, I was amazed at the unbelievably poor standard that we have in our ranks. My blood pressure was rising every time either of those teams attacked us. We look so naive and vulnerable. We have no leadership, dominance, strength or organisation at the back. It's basically a shambles. All created by the board this summer. They've properly took the pyss and it's now coming back to bite them. Other managers have now seen our defensive frailties and are easily exposing them.


Nudger alludes to signing defenders who play a certain way. Well my suggestion would be to genius James and Co- How's about signing defenders who know how to fekkin defend first and foremost?


I refuse to put the blame solely on Collins. We played some good stuff at lincoln I thought and that's with Styles in the side, a player who looks totally disinterested to me. The top and bottom of it is that the defence simply isn't up to the job and until that changes, we will continue to drop down the table.

Big January window is this. Something desperately needs to change and the necessary standard of defender needs to be brought in pronto

[SBRed48]

It’s not as though Barnsley haven’t been shown how high energy high press football works.
Ismael who finished 5th in the Championship showed us that.
If he had stayed and with the addition of a few more players there was a good chance of winning promotion to the Premier the following season.

Ismael's one style tactics were beginning to be rumbled towards the end of that Covid season behind closed doors.

I'm not that sure the generally shrewd Championship managers would fall for it again and have measures in place to counteract that high Barnsley defensive line.

[Shadrack the Red]

The issue in hand here isn't the football, its the fact that our defenders are of a very poor standard. It'll take them too much time to adapt (if they can at all) and it's to the detriment of the teams results.

Watching both the Derby and the Lincoln games recently, I was amazed at the unbelievably poor standard that we have in our ranks. My blood pressure was rising every time either of those teams attacked us. We look so naive and vulnerable. We have no leadership, dominance, strength or organisation at the back. It's basically a shambles. All created by the board this summer. They've properly took the pyss and it's now coming back to bite them. Other managers have now seen our defensive frailties and are easily exposing them.


Nudger alludes to signing defenders who play a certain way. Well my suggestion would be to genius James and Co- How's about signing defenders who know how to fekkin defend first and foremost?


I refuse to put the blame solely on Collins. We played some good stuff at lincoln I thought and that's with Styles in the side, a player who looks totally disinterested to me. The top and bottom of it is that the defence simply isn't up to the job and until that changes, we will continue to drop down the table.

Big January window is this. Something desperately needs to change and the necessary standard of defender needs to be brought in pronto

Brilliant post Pass , I have been banging the same drum for ages but they say that there are non as blind as them that cannot see & i am afraid we have defence which is inexperienced , pedestrian at best & of poor quality & until this problem is addressed then Mr Collins & his team will continue to struggle & people can blame Collins all they like but it is not his fault .

[Young_Nudger]

Ismael's one style tactics were beginning to be rumbled towards the end of that Covid season behind closed doors.

I'm not that sure the generally shrewd Championship managers would fall for it again and have measures in place to counteract that high Barnsley defensive line.

Obviously Liverpool have better players.
But their style is basically the same.
They have least possession of any Premier League team.
And they keep winning.

Two different styles went head to head last Saturday.
Possession v Non Possession direct football.
If I had to choose I know which team I’d rather watch.

We failed to get promoted during the Ismael season for one thing and one thing only.
The squad didn’t have enough quality in it.
Ismael said that.

Duff IMO was too timid to follow the blueprint that Ismael set out and reverted from 343 to 352.
I honestly believe if Luke Thomas had started in a front 3 - we would have beaten Wendy.

[Arblasterfromthepast]

The issue in hand here isn't the football, its the fact that our defenders are of a very poor standard. It'll take them too much time to adapt (if they can at all) and it's to the detriment of the teams results.

Watching both the Derby and the Lincoln games recently, I was amazed at the unbelievably poor standard that we have in our ranks. My blood pressure was rising every time either of those teams attacked us. We look so naive and vulnerable. We have no leadership, dominance, strength or organisation at the back. It's basically a shambles. All created by the board this summer. They've properly took the pyss and it's now coming back to bite them. Other managers have now seen our defensive frailties and are easily exposing them.


Nudger alludes to signing defenders who play a certain way. Well my suggestion would be to genius James and Co- How's about signing defenders who know how to fekkin defend first and foremost?


I refuse to put the blame solely on Collins. We played some good stuff at lincoln I thought and that's with Styles in the side, a player who looks totally disinterested to me. The top and bottom of it is that the defence simply isn't up to the job and until that changes, we will continue to drop down the table.

Big January window is this. Something desperately needs to change and the necessary standard of defender needs to be brought in pronto

Essentially agree with that Pass. The only thing I would say is that I believe we have some quality in De Gevigney. I think an older head alongside him would improve a la Andersen. Shepherd may have some talent as well. We currently don't stand a chance of promotion with the defence as it is though.
You're right, Styles, frustratingly, just doesn't look interested.

[Young_Nudger]

Essentially agree with that Pass. The only thing I would say is that I believe we have some quality in De Gevigney. I think an older head alongside him would improve a la Andersen. Shepherd may have some talent as well. We currently don't stand a chance of promotion with the defence as it is though.
You're right, Styles, frustratingly, just doesn't look interested.

It’s NOT the players.
It’s the tactics employed by the coach.

For example - we haven’t seen a proper high press this season - and neither have we seen things like 3 centre backs stood on the halfway line - or long diagonal passing from the wingbacks.

Collins has changed the culture - and it’s failed miserably.

[perkytyke]

I totally agree with what’s been said, however we HAVE an experienced older head for the defence CUNDY! I don’t know how bad his injury was to be fair, but it’s taking so long for him to come back I’m assuming both legs must have been taken off in a horrible accident and they are taking a bit of healing after sewing them back on!!!!! Players with cruciate ligament injuries have come back quicker than him.