Hostages.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It really is scary Alfie, many years ago I read 1984 and thought, nah, it's fiction, not real life, couldn't happen my lifetime, then I watched the repression in East Germany, Mao's China, the USSR and dismissed them as authoritarian, Lefty regimes, nothing to do with me, nothing to do with good old Blighty, an Englishman's home is his castle and all that.

It's here now though innit, and when Labour get into power next year it will rapidly get much worse. We ain't seen nothing yet.

Two bizzies on £37k a year, a police vehicle to come to Bolton, reports to be made; the taxpayer has probably just been chucked a bill for a grand just because a silly old fool takes exception to an eejit who "works" for the BBC.

[Supersub6]

Here is the answer
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[The Bedlington Terrier]

An old mate of mine who is a mad Stoke fan says the unfortunate description I opined may well be right.

Black = definitely.

B@stard = probably.

Apparently the BBC footy "analysist" was born in the Potteries and well I will be better to leave the rest to higher intellects than mine.

[Tap in MN]

Ask the terrorist scum who attack Israel, why they have built 300 miles of underground tunnels to protect themselves, but not one single bomb or air raid shelter to protect the citizens of Gaza ? Why have they embedded their military infrastructure into and under schools and hospitals ? Why have they taken old ladies, little girls and babies hostage ? Why did they murder, rape and burn alive 1,400 Jews on October 7th ?

The scum are using the hostages and the citizens of Gaza as human shields, hoping this will deter Israel from attacking them, but this time they've gone too far, Israel can no longer tolerate the existence of Hamas in Gaza and must attempt to eliminate them. The scum have ensured that this war will be costly for the poor buggers who live under their yoke, but that is quite deliberate, quite intentional on their part.

The calls for a ceasefire are laughable, there was a de facto ceasefire before October 7th, there was no war, but Hamas went on the rampage, they sowed the wind, now they can reap the whirlwind. It's a tragedy, a human catastrophe but an inevitable one, brought about by the actions and deliberate policies of Hamas, which is why I call them terrorist scum, which is possibly being kind to them.

There is a very long history to this conflict Sinkov but when two wrongs make a right let me know.

[sinkov]

There is a very long history to this conflict Sinkov but when two wrongs make a right let me know.

It's the history that's the problem isn't it Tap, it's the situation on the ground now that needs to be addressed, but the history makes that very difficult, it's not an excuse for barbarism though.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought you were implying that the IDF were deliberately targetting and bombing civilians of whom 50% were children. This makes no sense to me, Israel is fighting two wars, a military war against Hamas and a propaganda war against their useful idiots and anti-semites in the rest of the world.

To use expensive munitions and risk their own lives to attack civilians makes no sense militarily for Israel whatsoever, that civilian casualties will ensue from military operations in Gaza is inevitable, Hamas have ensured that, the deaths of the innocent citizens who they are supposed to protect and care for is a major part of their strategy, which is why I call them scum.

Any civilian death will be used against Israel in the propaganda war, which Hamas knows well, which is why they ensure the innocent people of Gaza are fully in harm's way, no air raid shelters or tunnels for them. Israel is losing, has been losing for years, and will lose the propaganda war, nevertheless it makes no sense in terms of the propaganda war for Israel to wantonly bomb and kill innocent civilisns. They cannot avoid civilian casualties if they want to defeat the terrorists, but it seems a nonsense to me to suggest they are killing innocent civilians and children deliberately.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Netanyahu says he has been "unsuccessful in limiting civilian deaths".

The solution is simple STOP BOMBING THEM.

Bibi's constant bombing of defenceless kids is not really working though is it mon ami? The Israel Defence Forces calculate they have killed between 1,000 and 2,000 Hamas fighters in the assault on Gaza. That is only a small part of its estimated total of 30,000 fighters, and a tiny number set against the dreadful Palestinian death toll of around 15,000, almost half of them children. The IDF are the real genocidal thugs and monsters.

[sinkov]

Netanyahu says he has been "unsuccessful in limiting civilian deaths".

The solution is simple STOP BOMBING THEM.

Bibi's constant bombing of defenceless kids is not really working though is it mon ami? The Israel Defence Forces calculate they have killed between 1,000 and 2,000 Hamas fighters in the assault on Gaza. That is only a small part of its estimated total of 30,000 fighters, and a tiny number set against the dreadful Palestinian death toll of around 15,000, almost half of them children. The IDF are the real genocidal thugs and monsters.

See Post 55.

[Balanbam00]

B T : IDF Golani Brigade overpowers Hamas's elite battalion, eliminates 300 terrorists, just another 5 terrorists to go?

Sign up and be a terrorist B T , the quickest way to get to heaven! (or some other place, depending on your conduct?? ) ( and if you went to the Mecca dancing ? How come I never had competition from others?)

[sinkov]

"Early this morning, Hamas fired the first shot that signalled the end of its ceasefire deal with Israel, roughly an hour before the truce was due to expire. Before the ceasefire broke there had been a night of intense negotiations over the next stage of the hostage releases. Hamas, as it has done since negotiations started, tried every trick in the book to buy time and maximise its gains. Last night, it did not agree to Israel’s demand to release the remaining surviving women.

Hamas has violated the ceasefire deal on several occasions. It breached some of it terms about separating mothers and children. It also broke the ceasefire in Gaza by attacking IDF soldiers, and again when it claimed responsibility for a terror attack in Jerusalem yesterday. In that attack, three Israeli civilians were killed. Despite this, Israel has carried on adhering to the ceasefire agreement, not wanting to risk the hostages. Today, Israel’s patience finally ended, and it resumed fighting following Hamas’s missile attack.

The hostages released so far by Hamas have been somewhat of a burden to the organisation; Hamas has suffered widespread international condemnation for abducting women, children and elderly people. Their release was therefore used by Hamas for public relations. Hamas soldiers were filmed helping Israeli children and elderly women while handing them over to the Red Cross, making them look like your average friendly neighbourhood freedom fighter.

In reality, the hostages have been cruelly abducted, and many have lost loved ones, killed by Hamas in front of their eyes. Several suffered injuries or illness and most have been denied ***** healthcare. They have returned to Israel traumatised, weak and malnourished. Early accounts suggest that they have been starved and suffered physical and emotional torture, with their bodies marked by burns. Some were reportedly held in cages."

Hamas Terrorist Scum

[The Bedlington Terrier]

B T : IDF Golani Brigade overpowers Hamas's elite battalion, eliminates 300 terrorists, just another 5 terrorists to go?

Sign up and be a terrorist B T , the quickest way to get to heaven! (or some other place, depending on your conduct?? ) ( and if you went to the Mecca dancing ? How come I never had competition from others?)

Kill them all as quickly as possible Balan and then Netanyahu will have no more excuses to kill kids.