Quote Originally Posted by Newish Pie View Post
What's the evidence for this? I mean, I'm sure that there are some people who think that. But the good news for people who worry about this sort of thing is that the vast majority of people who are worried about Palestinian lives and Palestinian rights absolutely do not see Hamas as freedom fighters and completely condemn their actions. Both the recent terrorist attacks, and the way they treat their own people.

There's been a concerted effort by the likes of Braverman and others with their talk of "hate marches" to smear everyone who's calling for a ceasefire/peaceful resolution as some sort of Hamas apologist. It's a deliberate and disgraceful lie, and it's sad to see people believing it.

It's fine to have open and honest disagreement about issues, but it's not fine to smear or misrepresent opposing views. Doesn't matter who does it, on what side, or on what issue. It's just wrong. It prevents open and honest debate and only increases division.
So many "well meaning" people want to see a ceasefire. No normal human being can watch the pain and suffering without wishing for a peaceful solution.

But there is not enough news coverage on who the IDF are fighting. Again I will refer to the documentary I cited, made in 2017, when standing near the Gaza border the Israelis were fearful of what was below their feet, and as they observered a Hamas look-out post shots were fired. Are the IDF going into Hospitals fighting nurses and doctors? Who is fighting back, surely someone is fighting back? Why are they there in the first place. Why are the brave freedom fighters lurking in well constructed tunnels within civilian infrastructure? In 2015 even Egypt flooded, with sea water, the Hamas tunnels near their border.

A ceasefire simply gives Hamas time and space to regroup to cause more havoc. Their stated aim is the destruction of Israel. That is the freedom they are fighting for however many Palestinian lives it costs.