Women's Football, One of Our Own and SPOTY

[Notts78]

Speaking of women's football ... Joey Barton seems to have lost the plot. Even though I agree with his general thrust that viewers are being short changed by woke companies going overboard on diversity.

I’m all for diversity but FFS have people on the TV that speak eloquently. None of this cockney gangsta **** or scouse.
I used to enjoy soccer Saturday with some of the old guard. It wasn’t their football knowledge but some of the stories they’d tell from their playing days.
The new crop is crap.
I’m not gonna slate women’s football. It’s in its infancy compared to the men’s game. It’s growing in popularity which is great. What I hate is the entitlement that some feel that they should get paid the same as men. I see that the Arsenal V Chelsea game got 59k. However, Brisbane road was largely empty for Spurs v Man Utd.
As for BBC SPOTY - it’s merely a popularity contest that personally I have no interest in.

[The Dug Out]

I know a lot of posters on this board think women’s football is a joke, but I for one enjoyed watching the Notts Ladies team play in the WSL a few years ago.

Today, 59,042 watched Arsenal Women beat undefeated Chelsea Women 4-1. The last time women’s football was as popular, the FA’s response was to ban it.

On 5 December 1921, the FA met at its headquarters in London and announced a ban on the women’s game from being played at the professional grounds and pitches of clubs affiliated to the FA, stating “the game of football is quite unsuitable for females and not to be encouraged.”

Apart from this board’s posters who still live in the 1920s, I hope you’re all going to vote for one of our own, England goalkeeper Mary Earps from West Bridgford, the odds-on favourite in this year’s BBC Sports Personality of the Year.

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I dont live in the 1920's, far from it, I find the women's football boring and very, very sub mediocre at best with very little talent to ease the pain, there are exceptions that probably happen, but it is my view that the womens game is scurring around looking for a place that it can call home,the powers that be are doing there damnest to make it watchable by throwing millions upon millions of pounds to support their "invention", its just not working though.

[SmiffyPie]

It's all about expectations I guess. Go to a mens reserve game and you expect reserve standard football. Go to watch your kids and you expect to see kids standard. Watch women play and you get women playing, simple really. All standards should be appreciated with that in mind. I watched the Euros and the WC and enjoyed both competitions because I expected to see slow play, poor play (by mens standard) and players without a full bag of tricks. I wouldn't go and watch a WSL match because it holds no interest for me (because of poor play etc not because it is women (I suppose one goes with the other))

[The Dug Out]

It's all about expectations I guess. Go to a mens reserve game and you expect reserve standard football. Go to watch your kids and you expect to see kids standard. Watch women play and you get women playing, simple really. All standards should be appreciated with that in mind. I watched the Euros and the WC and enjoyed both competitions because I expected to see slow play, poor play (by mens standard) and players without a full bag of tricks. I wouldn't go and watch a WSL match because it holds no interest for me (because of poor play etc not because it is women (I suppose one goes with the other))

My sentiments too Mr Smith, trouble is the hiarchy are trying their best to force it down our throats and pat themselves on the back because they have ticked some boxes,i dont think it will work, there is a large pushback. As for the Joey barton rant, i tend to agree with him in some cases, if not most, its just equality for the sake of it, again just back patting, some women commentators seem to know what they are saying , most just paraphrase and state the obvious, in that way he is correct.

[OP67]

Hardly a surprise when a season ticket costs less than a single match ticket to watch the men.

Yeap £80 for an Arsenal womens season ticket for 11 home games of which a few are played at the Emirates. The rest are played at Boreham Woods ground...still not worth it though

[keldsyke]

It's all about expectations I guess. Go to a mens reserve game and you expect reserve standard football. Go to watch your kids and you expect to see kids standard. Watch women play and you get women playing, simple really. All standards should be appreciated with that in mind. I watched the Euros and the WC and enjoyed both competitions because I expected to see slow play, poor play (by mens standard) and players without a full bag of tricks. I wouldn't go and watch a WSL match because it holds no interest for me (because of poor play etc not because it is women (I suppose one goes with the other))

Exactly and that is the problem it's being marketed (forced) as the best of the best, take tennis, women's top tennis is just as comparable to mens apart from the physical differences skill wise imo they are equal and both as enjoyable as each other.

[Notts78]

Exactly and that is the problem it's being marketed (forced) as the best of the best, take tennis, women's top tennis is just as comparable to mens apart from the physical differences skill wise imo they are equal and both as enjoyable as each other.

I disagree about Tennis. The women’s game, like footy, is completely different. The men’s game is played at speed with power, skill and agility. The women’s game is slower, admittedly they have longer rallies, but these are often static ‘to me, to you’, until you be makes a mistake.
The biggest issue that everyone needs to get away from is comparing men and women in sport. It is and will always be completely different and there is hardly a sport where both can co-exist as equals.
There was an all male team that recently won a state championship playing netball. Went down well and the boys took zero stick whatsoever - obviously they got a **** load and had it been the other way round, up roar amongst the left would have ensued.

[BigFatPie]

I really feel sorry for you lads who are being forced to watch women’s football, and are having women commentators and pundits forced down their throats oo er missus.

When there’s something on the telly I don’t like I just turn it off/over. Must be awful to have to sit there and watch something you don’t like. Is it the woke police who are enforcing this?

[crazyfists]

I really feel sorry for you lads who are being forced to watch women’s football, and are having women commentators and pundits forced down their throats oo er missus.

When there’s something on the telly I don’t like I just turn it off/over. Must be awful to have to sit there and watch something you don’t like. Is it the woke police who are enforcing this?

Exactly this. Who is forcing anyone to watch women's football? I watched the euros and world cup knockouts as I wanted to, I haven't watched one WSL game. Next they'll be saying you can't put up an England flag anymore.

As for the commentary then some women are better than others but they're all getting used to doing the job regularly now, just as men commentators had to. They're no worse than the insufferable Peter Dreary and Clive Tyldesley. I too find it hard to watch an attractive anchor ask the banal questions instead of Richard Keys though.

And as for Joey Barton, he's just a vile human with a murdering racist brother coming out with provocative statements to coincide with the start of his podcast. Weird that isn't it?