Eustace out and Rooney in at Brum?

[SithHappens]

Makes you wonder how good Rooney was with us. He couldn't lose really. Had he been better maybe we would have stayed up after all.

[ramAnag]

Makes you wonder how good Rooney was with us. He couldn't lose really. Had he been better maybe we would have stayed up after all.

Indeed. Managerial career record is 153 games and a win ratio of about 26%. Half that for Brum (!) and just over that for us...also makes you wonder who our ‘nearly great escape’ was really down to given what’s happened since.

[swaledale]

Indeed. Managerial career record is 153 games and a win ratio of about 26%. Half that for Brum (!) and just over that for us...also makes you wonder who our ‘nearly great escape’ was really down to given what’s happened since.

There is a view that Rosenior did most of the coaching. He seems gutted, shouldn't think the money is that big a deal for him, his reputation as a manager much more of a hit. It does take some doing to take a team from 6th to near the bottom of a league, reports say players couldn't understand what he wanted or indeed perhaps what he was saying?

AS I said at the start of this thread, I hoped it would end in tears, this hiring managers on the basis of past glories and the guff about Rooney's Birmingham which the ****s in the media always write. Many good coaches out there who deserve the jobs that the likes of Rooney, Lampard and Gerard ahve had handed to them on a plate, purely due to their history as players.

[Andy_Faber]

There is a view that Rosenior did most of the coaching. He seems gutted, shouldn't think the money is that big a deal for him, his reputation as a manager much more of a hit. It does take some doing to take a team from 6th to near the bottom of a league, reports say players couldn't understand what he wanted or indeed perhaps what he was saying?

AS I said at the start of this thread, I hoped it would end in tears, this hiring managers on the basis of past glories and the guff about Rooney's Birmingham which the ****s in the media always write. Many good coaches out there who deserve the jobs that the likes of Rooney, Lampard and Gerard ahve had handed to them on a plate, purely due to their history as players.

It’s the same throughout the business world (and footy is a business), there’s some invisible line below which reward if any has to be earned and above which reputation/ past glories/ who knows who is what matters

[swaledale]

It’s the same throughout the business world (and footy is a business), there’s some invisible line below which reward if any has to be earned and above which reputation/ past glories/ who knows who is what matters

I'd agree to the extent that Rooney's and other appointment have been made by businessmen who are considering the business side of running a football club, more than the sport side. But football is a strange business and unlike other businesses customer s don't usually have a choice as to where they spend their money. Hence the Glazers running Man U as a cash cow and that clubs subsequent failure to realise its sporting potential.

Once one enters the world of management, there are certainly many examples of people promoted far beyond their competence and capability whose rise seems to be based on who they know and their ability to bull**** the clueless people employing them.