O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[frogmiller]

So where is the fall in the birth rate, Frog? Why isn’t it there? Where is the miscarriage date upon which your posts were based?

https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...rld/birth-rate - page one of a Duckduckgo search

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8251237/ - Page one of a Duckduckgo search.

[Eternal Optimist]

...I assume that we can agree that the data that I put up confirms no sudden fall in the birth rate of the UK, US and NZ following the vaccine...

The data you quoted was from 2021.

[Eternal Optimist]

Why are so many women dying during pregnancy and what can be done?
Number dying in UK has reached highest level in 20 years but alarming trend going unaddressed worldwide.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...at-can-be-done

[KerrAvon]

https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...rld/birth-rate - page one of a Duckduckgo search

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8251237/ - Page one of a Duckduckgo search.

The first link takes you to a page which confirms that there was no marked drop in the birth-rate after the vaccine roll out – merely the continuation of a historic trend that is obvious from the graph that shows the rate from 1950 onwards.

The second link take you to a study that compared miscarriage data from the period 29 June to 30 September 2019 with the similar period in 2020 and which showed an increase in miscarriage. As the period 29 June to 30 September 2020 predates the vaccine rollout, it is irrelevant to your point. Instead, it point to a possible miscarriage risk associated with covid infections or countermeasures that were in place at that time.

[KerrAvon]

The data you quoted was from 2021.

I know. Here's the 2022 date if you would prefer it. You will see that there was a marked reduction in the still birth rate for the year, which may point to an additional benefit from the rollout.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...dandwales/2022

[KerrAvon]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...at-can-be-done

On the assumption that the data that it is based on is correct, I agree with the article – something has to be done to improve the state of antenatal care in this country (perhaps there’s room for a TV drama to spur the government into action).

I don't understand why you consider the article to be relevant though.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Some mind boggling references in this thread.

However, they all suffer from the same fault.

That's trying to make wide ranging conclusions from limited data. It's always a mistake

Add to this the tendency to cherry pick conclusions you want to see whilst ignoring those you don't want to see.

Good science is based on years of work and extensive data not on a " quick dip in the pond" by a scientist wanting to attract attention or funding for their pet project.

Mass data in the public domain is essential

[KerrAvon]

I agree with your view of good science, but fear that mass data in the public domain would merely be abused by the unscrupulous or by those who aren't equipped to analyse it.

We've seen the abuse of publically available data by those who claim that it shows that the vaccinated are more likely to die of covid than the unvaccinated.

[frogmiller]

I agree with your view of good science, but fear that mass data in the public domain would merely be abused by the unscrupulous or by those who aren't equipped to analyse it.

We've seen the abuse of publically available data by those who claim that it shows that the vaccinated are more likely to die of covid than the unvaccinated.

Jeesus

So if the data is right and it proves that the vaccines have caused harm, genetically changed people, killed or had any adverse effect then you won’t accept it because you think that folk will abuse the data.

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[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I agree with your view of good science, but fear that mass data in the public domain would merely be abused by the unscrupulous or by those who aren't equipped to analyse it.

We've seen the abuse of publically available data by those who claim that it shows that the vaccinated are more likely to die of covid than the unvaccinated.

Well, maybe so, but really that’s the point, data being analysed by those not equipped to do it.

Now that dodgy analysis is more instant due to social media, where previously it was via the written word, much slower and generally restricted to those with a mental capacity to understand it