Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
You've gone around a lot of fact finders there Ragingpup.

Did you put your curiousity in a box with your denial of any wrong doing by others?

The pandemic and the use of a vaccine was predicted back in 2009 and those that predicted it just joined up the dots of information given out as public record. Those people are still vilified, imprisoned or accused of all sorts of rubbish to discredit them. It turns out that some of the conspiricy theorists were actually truth tellers!

The thread about the Post Office showed a cover up.
The thread about the farmers shows blantent news blackout.

The missiles of mass distruction was a lie

Yet somehhow if it said it on a fact finder would you accept it?
I'm curious about a lot of things in the big old world and have been known to get quite involved with them as ever though, I tend to not just look at fact checkers but also the people who are making the arguments for and against issues, and check their backgrounds and vested interests just as you rightly do with Gates and the like. I then weigh up if there is significant validity in those claims and authority from the people making them, and then make a call whether it is wise to invest further time.

I've only clicked ona few links you've posted, but it seems in each one there is not only a falling foul of what for me (I respect that you don't agree) are quite respectable and varied fact checkers and counter evidence that seems more reliable than the arguments your people are presenting. Eventually, after a few of them, I tend to quite quickly disregard the further arguments. Most of them seem to fall foul of simple logic anyway - a pandemic predicted back in 2009? A pandemic has been predicted all the way through our existence on account that they happen regularly, and increased regularity as we grow in population. There will be another one. There will currently be good scientists who are working with good intention to collaborate and anticipate/reduce the impact of such pandemics on the population, on all levels. There will also be some bad scientists who will try and make capital out of this unavoidable situation. It's just simple common sense.

And yes powerful people and the media can collaborate to do horrific things - who knew?! That they will cover up to save their own asses when the mask slips? No ****?! But that doesn't lead me to believe things when a simple exporation of the information from all perspectives, which can include FC as a useful tool, tells me otherwise.