O/T:- Swansea

[queenslandpie]

Williams is an intelligent guy so he will have learned lessons. However, there is one commodity that he may lack to come back from this: time. If he's still at Swansea by season's end, I'll be amazed. And suppose our 'experiment' with Maynard goes wrong, would we want LW back?

With one notable exception ( Jimmy) never go back. He is intelligent but intelligent people can still press the self destruct button. He is doing that right now trying to implement a new style in the middle of the season with the threat of relegation still there. Madness. Personally I think Swansea should have stuck with Sheehan until the end of the season and rebuilt from there. But such is football that everyone wants everything right now. I agree with you that this will be a self destruct button for Luke. he will back in L2 next season. Not with us.

[BigFatPie]

This one will scar you, I literally took a double take today when it popped up, it’s literally his droppleganger. I forgot to post till I saw yours.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/u...after-31890011

Lewis McMahon?? What a player.

[the_anticlough]

With one notable exception ( Jimmy) never go back. He is intelligent but intelligent people can still press the self destruct button. He is doing that right now trying to implement a new style in the middle of the season with the threat of relegation still there. Madness. Personally I think Swansea should have stuck with Sheehan until the end of the season and rebuilt from there. But such is football that everyone wants everything right now. I agree with you that this will be a self destruct button for Luke. he will back in L2 next season. Not with us.

Tend to agree with all of that, although I give him a more than 50% chance of seeing out THIS season with them.

On any return here? I know I'll probably never see another coach deliver the same attacking approach I want to pay my money to see. But still, as partisan fans for life of our football club, it's no fun being sensible - and our dedication is the standard we hope they share (like JOBs tattoo ). So the following stuff matters - he broke his contract / he walked out mid season / he took 2 senior coaches with him / he left in the middle of a promotion campaign / he left with problems that need fixing / it allowed an old rival to poach our talent / it inflicted a couple of weeks of turmoil on the club / he left the players guessing and uncertain and so on and so on. As a partisan County fan who doesn't have to care that his wife has a gym in Newport of course I wouldn't want to see him back. I'm with BFG in holding to 2 ideas simultaneously - he's easily in the top 5 Notts managers I've seen, I'll enjoy Swansea's losses. Thanks and best of luck to him in life (but not right now with Swansea )

[magpie_mania]

Tend to agree with all of that, although I give him a more than 50% chance of seeing out THIS season with them.

On any return here? I know I'll probably never see another coach deliver the same attacking approach I want to pay my money to see. But still, as partisan fans for life of our football club, it's no fun being sensible - and our dedication is the standard we hope they share (like JOBs tattoo ). So the following stuff matters - he broke his contract / he walked out mid season / he took 2 senior coaches with him / he left in the middle of a promotion campaign / he left with problems that need fixing / it allowed an old rival to poach our talent / it inflicted a couple of weeks of turmoil on the club / he left the players guessing and uncertain and so on and so on. As a partisan County fan who doesn't have to care that his wife has a gym in Newport of course I wouldn't want to see him back. I'm with BFG in holding to 2 ideas simultaneously - he's easily in the top 5 Notts managers I've seen, I'll enjoy Swansea's losses. Thanks and best of luck to him in life (but not right now with Swansea )

Who are the old rivals poaching our talent?

Regarding breaking his contract, I am assuming that should it not work out with SM (I think it will) you would want him to remain to the end of his contract? Seems to me that the club knew Williams would be off soon so the contract extension was to give us maximum compensation should that happen.

To look on the other side, how many supporters would turn down a promotion at work like this?

[the_anticlough]

Who are the old rivals poaching our talent?

Regarding breaking his contract, I am assuming that should it not work out with SM (I think it will) you would want him to remain to the end of his contract? Seems to me that the club knew Williams would be off soon so the contract extension was to give us maximum compensation should that happen.

To look on the other side, how many supporters would turn down a promotion at work like this?

All too sensible, MM. I want to support with my heart and not be Mr. Spock about it.

[queenslandpie]

Tend to agree with all of that, although I give him a more than 50% chance of seeing out THIS season with them.

On any return here? I know I'll probably never see another coach deliver the same attacking approach I want to pay my money to see. But still, as partisan fans for life of our football club, it's no fun being sensible - and our dedication is the standard we hope they share (like JOBs tattoo ). So the following stuff matters - he broke his contract / he walked out mid season / he took 2 senior coaches with him / he left in the middle of a promotion campaign / he left with problems that need fixing / it allowed an old rival to poach our talent / it inflicted a couple of weeks of turmoil on the club / he left the players guessing and uncertain and so on and so on. As a partisan County fan who doesn't have to care that his wife has a gym in Newport of course I wouldn't want to see him back. I'm with BFG in holding to 2 ideas simultaneously - he's easily in the top 5 Notts managers I've seen, I'll enjoy Swansea's losses. Thanks and best of luck to him in life (but not right now with Swansea )

Not much to disagree with there. If he keeps them away from the drop he will be ok, but if he belligerently perseveres with round pegs in square holes he won't and from what we have seen he does seem to only know one way. The third goal they conceded against Bournemouth when the keeper ridiculously passed it to a defender who was not expecting it and than had no idea what to do with it was absolute comedy and just summed up why what he is trying to do mid season is fraught with risk. I wish him all the best but I would not take him back at Notts. Edit - and yes the football was amazing. I have never in my life been so confident in the team than I was last season. However we were non league and he had stellar players to work with. Probably also the best squad in terms of its divisional status I have also seen perhaps matched by the one Barnwell had.

[magpie_mania]

All too sensible, MM. I want to support with my heart and not be Mr. Spock about it.

I still don't know who are our rivals who are poaching our talent though.

[keldsyke]

I still don't know who are our rivals who are poaching our talent though.

Not sure who he is talking about, but it has happened in the recent past, how do you think we paid for use of Forests training facilities?

[magpie_mania]

Not sure who he is talking about, but it has happened in the recent past, how do you think we paid for use of Forests training facilities?

Just not sure who he's talking about because he says 'it allowed' - meaning it's happened. Does he know something we don't?

How did we pay for use of their training facilities? Which talent was poached?

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Not sure who he is talking about, but it has happened in the recent past, how do you think we paid for use of Forests training facilities?

We paid for the old Forest training ground by maintaining the pitches and also allowing them to use Meadow Lane from time to time