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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    And we expect the powers that be in SF to pay the slightest attention to some second tier football team this side of the pond? I'm sure Parathe is just oh so busy making sure LUFC has what they need, when " the NFL’s championship game generating roughly $14.6 billion", really?
    Yanks have done well with Football. Not 100% sure but I believe that Lpool, scum, Arsenal, Villa, Bournmouth, Palace, Burnley and Fulham are owned by them. With the exception of Chelsea I suspect that most have made out well on the investment. Chelsea have thrown away money and the scum owners got in so cheap that even with the poor track record of purchases since red beak left they are still way ahead.

    I think we'll find out that the 49's are going to be a deliberate and financially astute ownership team. We'll have some duds but nothing like the chaos of the orta years. We also aren't going to have to overpay just to get someone to consider us. It will take time but we'll rebuild the brand to something that players want to come to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Yanks have done well with Football. Not 100% sure but I believe that Lpool, scum, Arsenal, Villa, Bournmouth, Palace, Burnley and Fulham are owned by them. With the exception of Chelsea I suspect that most have made out well on the investment. Chelsea have thrown away money and the scum owners got in so cheap that even with the poor track record of purchases since red beak left they are still way ahead.

    I think we'll find out that the 49's are going to be a deliberate and financially astute ownership team. We'll have some duds but nothing like the chaos of the orta years. We also aren't going to have to overpay just to get someone to consider us. It will take time but we'll rebuild the brand to something that players want to come to.
    Sorry m8, football (at the highest level) is a very different beast to what it was when previous US owners acquired clubs. Current transfer activity shows that players don't regard LUFC as "desireable", neither are they likely to accept that "it will take time" to rebuild anything. They (and their agents) want it (whatever "it" is) now, not next year and even less the year after.

    The power (when creating a competitive squad) is no longer with the clubs, it's with the players, their agents and especially with agents who represent a group of players. Owners who try to buck the trend won't succeed, as others will be quite ready to pull the rug from under the competition.

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    No disagreeing with where the power lies...the players.

    However, If the 49's are half as good at running Leeds as they are in throwball they will get players wanting to come sooner than you might think.

    Players want well run and financially sound clubs in their formative years. These are the best years to have players. Let them go when the become "superstars" and past their prime. The 49's excel at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    No disagreeing with where the power lies...the players.

    However, If the 49's are half as good at running Leeds as they are in throwball they will get players wanting to come sooner than you might think.

    Players want well run and financially sound clubs in their formative years. These are the best years to have players. Let them go when the become "superstars" and past their prime. The 49's excel at that.
    Problem with that scenario is "if the 49rs are half as good at running Leeds as they are in throwball"..They have zero experience of running a truly competitive sports club, with ups and downs between multiple national divisions and a playing environment that spans multiple continents and league structures that make the simplicity of the NFL look like a kids tea party.

    Players do indeed want well run clubs, they also want successful clubs, and today, not in two or three years time. It's not been long I'll grant you, but the appalling lack of internal player development (Gray is the only graduate from the youth teams to break through) is horribly apparent. Young players of note and talent will NOT come to a club where they are excluded from the 1st team and who could blame them, seeing how Bate, Cresswell, Hjelde, Joseph, Gelhardt, etc etc have been treated. We will be left with the likes of Connor Roberts (29, a career-long loanee) and similar, unable to establish a stable and successful development path not make significant contribution to the long-term success of LUFC.

    49-ers need to "wake up and smell the coffee" to use the US vernacular because right now they own a club with a manager/coach who seems to enjoy oscillating between the PL and the Championship, never able to succeed consistently in either, and a paper-thin 1st team that will implode with only a couple of injuries and the odd suspension or two.

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    Isn't it Norwich's owner that says he wants to be one of the best 24 clubs in the FA? I think that's why Farke bounced between leagues. If you owner sets that kind of bar you aren't getting the best funds or players. Just good enough to bounce up and down between the leagues.

    I know it's hard to believe but I"m not sure "being experienced" at running a club is always the best thing. Sometimes some innovative strategies get you further than following the standard model. Brentford are a great example. Picture that innovation and resourcefulness with some money behind you. Maybe we can have that innovativeness is a different way.

    I feel much better than I did a year ago about our future even though we are down a division. I think the 49's could end up being a great thing for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Isn't it Norwich's owner that says he wants to be one of the best 24 clubs in the FA? I think that's why Farke bounced between leagues. If you owner sets that kind of bar you aren't getting the best funds or players. Just good enough to bounce up and down between the leagues.

    I know it's hard to believe but I"m not sure "being experienced" at running a club is always the best thing. Sometimes some innovative strategies get you further than following the standard model. Brentford are a great example. Picture that innovation and resourcefulness with some money behind you. Maybe we can have that innovativeness is a different way.

    I feel much better than I did a year ago about our future even though we are down a division. I think the 49's could end up being a great thing for us.
    Good luck with your personal views.... Hope you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Isn't it Norwich's owner that says he wants to be one of the best 24 clubs in the FA? I think that's why Farke bounced between leagues. If you owner sets that kind of bar you aren't getting the best funds or players. Just good enough to bounce up and down between the leagues.

    I know it's hard to believe but I"m not sure "being experienced" at running a club is always the best thing. Sometimes some innovative strategies get you further than following the standard model. Brentford are a great example. Picture that innovation and resourcefulness with some money behind you. Maybe we can have that innovativeness is a different way.

    I feel much better than I did a year ago about our future even though we are down a division. I think the 49's could end up being a great thing for us.
    We will see.

    Innovation depends on at least a basic understanding of what you wish to innovate from.

    RJ Mitchell developed the Spitfire as the most succesful and long-lived fighter aircraft ever, developed and re-developed over 25 years, before during and after WWII. He did so on the back of the innovation brought about by the Schneider Trophy successes with stress-skinned monoplanes. None of that was possible without an understanding of aerodynamics, precision engineering etc. You can't innovate unless you understand what is you are attempting to innovate from. 49ers haven't got the first idea.

    Lets not forget that when Radrizzani acquired the club in whole from Cellino at least he (Radrizzani), had an inkling of what European football was about. It was suggested that we were on the road to a successful return to the PL. That turned out well, didn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    We will see.

    Innovation depends on at least a basic understanding of what you wish to innovate from.

    RJ Mitchell developed the Spitfire as the most succesful and long-lived fighter aircraft ever, developed and re-developed over 25 years, before during and after WWII. He did so on the back of the innovation brought about by the Schneider Trophy successes with stress-skinned monoplanes. None of that was possible without an understanding of aerodynamics, precision engineering etc. You can't innovate unless you understand what is you are attempting to innovate from. 49ers haven't got the first idea.

    Lets not forget that when Radrizzani acquired the club in whole from Cellino at least he (Radrizzani), had an inkling of what European football was about. It was suggested that we were on the road to a successful return to the PL. That turned out well, didn't it?
    That’s quite a good analogy.

    Spitfires are well ace. Me likey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgoner View Post
    That’s quite a good analogy.

    Spitfires are well ace. Me likey!
    Glad you likey!

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    Southampton have to play Leicester, West Brom, Ipswich and Leeds all away. So chance for us to get up.

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