If not LR then who?

[Pocket rocket]

So we are comparing a manager that got what he wanted in 2 transfer windows, spending the biggest budget in the clubs history with a bloke that got nothing in fact net amount of players he was -2 down. Judge LR after a transfer window where the chairman backs him. Also only one person has named an alternative and that was Evan’s, do you really think SE would have tolerated asking for 5 players and having 5 players shipped out and only 3 in. I do agree LR isn’t helping himself with the cautious football at home but to base an argument that the man that spent more than any other Rotherham manager is better than him on TWO home game performances is insane. We will see next year which one does the best, but I am sure if it is LR it will be excused with something else.

I used the 2 home games as an example because it’s relevant. You know that Derby so stop making out that’s the only reason you are better than that. MT used to get stick week in week out and the he’s only done well because PW got us off to a good start argument came out.
Well it’s relevant then that we played better at home under MT is mentioned.
I go to every game home and away and I’m entitled to my opinion that this style and intent is the most boring negative football I’ve seen from us. I can’t keep paying to watch us just try and not get hammered us supporters deserve better than that.
Hugill as an example why? We are crying out for pace MT would make substitutions early some would work some wouldn’t. LR well tell me why can’t he see it’s just not going to get us anything.
As said already I’m classed as an happy clapper and will always back the manager. I can’t back this set up and intent to try and get something.
I really hope he proves me wrong but to me he’s a poor choice for us and won’t last long.

[Derbymiller]

I used the 2 home games as an example because it’s relevant. You know that Derby so stop making out that’s the only reason you are better than that. MT used to get stick week in week out and the he’s only done well because PW got us off to a good start argument came out.
Well it’s relevant then that we played better at home under MT is mentioned.
I go to every game home and away and I’m entitled to my opinion that this style and intent is the most boring negative football I’ve seen from us. I can’t keep paying to watch us just try and not get hammered us supporters deserve better than that.
Hugill as an example why? We are crying out for pace MT would make substitutions early some would work some wouldn’t. LR well tell me why can’t he see it’s just not going to get us anything.
As said already I’m classed as an happy clapper and will always back the manager. I can’t back this set up and intent to try and get something.
I really hope he proves me wrong but to me he’s a poor choice for us and won’t last long.

You make good points, I thought MT came across as someone that thought he was better than he was, he struggled to get any sort of performance out of the team away from home. We were getting worse every week under him, LR needs as least as long as MT had to be judging him, remember warned first season in charge he was awful and in L1 it took until early December to start getting any decent form. What I like at the moment the players want to play, I don’t see anyone not trying even if they aren’t that good, you cannot say that under MT. Morrison banter with the Leeds fans pointing to the Rotherham badge, it at least shows some intent.

[flourbasher]

I thought MT came across as someone that thought he was better than he was, he struggled to get any sort of performance out of the team away from home. .

That’s just not true
He masterminded a fully deserved victory at SuFC who got promoted
He also got a backs to wall one at Stoke
We should have won at Luton with a bit more concentration who got promoted
We should have won at Coventry but for a very dubious penalty. They went to Wembley
We should have got a point at Burnley if not for yet another horrendous gaff from the officials. We were winning twice and they went up.

No Manager does the above by struggling to get a performance away from home

This season he was derailed by a catastrophic injury list and we got worse under him because of that reason not by any tactical
Nativity or thinking he was better than he was
If we’d had the majority of our squad available with just the odd injury we would be in Huddersfield,s position now bearing down on the likes of Stoke and Birmingham

[Masbroughstreet]

That’s just not true
He masterminded a fully deserved victory at SuFC who got promoted
He also got a backs to wall one at Stoke
We should have won at Luton with a bit more concentration who got promoted
We should have won at Coventry but for a very dubious penalty. They went to Wembley
We should have got a point at Burnley if not for yet another horrendous gaff from the officials. We were winning twice and they went up.

No Manager does the above by struggling to get a performance away from home

While you have a point about those away performances, didn’t they all come prior to the World Cup break in his first couple of months in charge? Pretty much every away performance beyond that was poor. What went wrong in the following year?

[caytonmiller]

I hope the admins think this is worth a dedicated post.
I know a some don’t think MT should have been sacked and aren’t impressed with LR, saying LR was the wrong choice, I haven’t seen any other names suggested though, I would be interested who they think it should have been. You can’t name people that turned us down or the man that was sacked to create the vacancy, so who.

Derby the reason I think MT should have been given until June was because it was obvious TS wasn't going to splash the cash in January and the team was a MT team and if a manager should fail it should be the one who accumulated the players.
If the players have a relegation on their CV why shouldn't the manager?.
MT had some horrible injuries to key players at critical times and to loose 5 CB in the first 8 games would hurt most teams. Yes we all though signing the 3 CB was a risk but Morrison & peltier has proven, keep them fit and they are still capable in this league...

The thing MT fail mostly on was trying to play the same formation away from home as he did at home. Some of our home games this season have been some of the best in the championship by a millers side for a long time. Good passages of play. Slick passing and some skillful players that are not usually associated with teams like ours. On the other foot. Some of our away performance have been the worst I've seen from a millers side in a long time. Watford and Wednesday are but a few. Why didn't he change formations and players so we were harder to play against! Baffling really...

On to Richardson. The players he needed in January were wide players. This team is so narrow and every fan can see it. Who does he bring in. A striker who has scored 2 championship goals in 27 attempts, this when he was at his prime.
a central midfielder who most of us had to Google and a 19 year old RB who we are priming for sheff I...
2 of the 3 are more about next season so where was his intentions of trying to keep us up?

LR setup is the same home and away. He trys to make us hard to beat which away from home is fine, the dull as dishwater performance at home is not. He will need 13 players in the summer and over 50% of those will probably fail to meet our std so I'm not expecting him to get a 3rd transfer window. TS will prob pull the trigger again before giving him the chance.

[flourbasher]

While you have a point about those away performances, didn’t they all come prior to the World Cup break in his first couple of months in charge? Pretty much every away performance beyond that was poor. What went wrong in the following year?

Injuries. If you ain’t got the tools to do the job it’s going to be tough and it limited his formations and tactics

After the WC the games I witnessed where we were ok were at Bristol, Watford , Blackpool, Swansea, draws at Norwich and Hull
With a bit more quality up front we could have won at the first 4

[welovebooth]

We just can't afford the championship.

It's as simple as that

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

We just can't afford the championship.

It's as simple as that

Exactly

If you look at the current Championship managers how many would be even half interested to come here?

Even on an inflated salary

Nil would be my guess

[animallittle3]

Tony Stewart as always come across to me as a savvy owner in a very un-savvy industry in a lunatic and unfair league .

He's probably one of the few adults in the room , I feel your frustration , nowt going on here that we don't feel ourselves over here .

As owner of Rotherham United he's got a duty of care to the club , fans and community and that's something he's not often credited with .

Your having the same season we had the last time we were in the championship and it's awful , you just feel constantly deflated and I couldn't wait for the season to end .

The Championship is mental , I actually think it's hardly worth the bother sometimes .

[MillersJ81]

Tony Stewart as always come across to me as a savvy owner in a very un-savvy industry in a lunatic and unfair league .

He's probably one of the few adults in the room , I feel your frustration , nowt going on here that we don't feel ourselves over here .

As owner of Rotherham United he's got a duty of care to the club , fans and community and that's something he's not often credited with .

Your having the same season we had the last time we were in the championship and it's awful , you just feel constantly deflated and I couldn't wait for the season to end .

The Championship is mental , I actually think it's hardly worth the bother sometimes .

You won’t convince the bipolar mob on here . But you are spot on btw . How much money did or do the owners have at Barnsley? More than our owner is my guess and a very similar situation.