O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[frogmiller]

I don't want you to be silenced, Frog. If I did, I would simply ignore you and leave this thread to the blowing tumbleweed.

I’m not trying to change your mind and am well aware that there is little prospect of doing so. Only you can do that, but you won't unless you actually start questioning the stuff that you are linking to, much of which is demonstrably drivel. I'm guessing that it was Twitter that told you that it is impossible to create a vaccine for a viral infection? Shouldn't that make you question the stuff that you are relying upon?

Part of the UK Hallett Inquiry is going to look at vaccines, but what do you think that an Inquiry into mRNA vaccines will achieve for you? For example, if it calls witnesses who claim that they cause miscarriage, how do you think they will be able to address the fact that the birthrate completely discredits such claims? Ditto claims that they cause cancer or alter DNA? Do you think it would call Right Said Fred as witnesses to hold forth upon why scientific research should not be quality controlled by peer review?

I fear that one thing that is certain is that unless you open your mind to the possibility that the Twitter algorithms are happily feeding you crap, you will be very disappointed with the results of any Inquiry and - as mentioned above - it will simply open a rich new seam of conspiracy theories.

P.s. what do you mean rushed in under USA military emergency license? It was the MHRA that granted the license in the UK, which was the first country to deploy them in a clinical setting.

Right said fred just posted something that I thought I’d share with you all. To think that they’re capable of coming to any clinical conclusion is funny.

I am quite capable of holding my hands up and saying that I was wrong when the facts are uncensored are you?

To be honest you have opened my eyes to how you think and how others are unable to question what is obvious.

We’ve already touched on algorithms and how every social media use them. We’ve also touched on that X is cancelling more content than any other platform.

Will you accept that the vaccines were untried, untested and given a special license to get licensed approval? And that mNRA technology has been abandoned several times because of its dangers? And that the guy you said had never worked on the technology and resigned because of the dangers. You can look back at your post stating the free owned New York Times?

[KerrAvon]

Right said fred just posted something that I thought I’d share with you all. To think that they’re capable of coming to any clinical conclusion is funny.

I am quite capable of holding my hands up and saying that I was wrong when the facts are uncensored are you?

To be honest you have opened my eyes to how you think and how others are unable to question what is obvious.

We’ve already touched on algorithms and how every social media use them. We’ve also touched on that X is cancelling more content than any other platform.

Will you accept that the vaccines were untried, untested and given a special license to get licensed approval? And that mNRA technology has been abandoned several times because of its dangers? And that the guy you said had never worked on the technology and resigned because of the dangers. You can look back at your post stating the free owned New York Times?

We can at least agree about Right Said Fred then. Unfortunately, they spent most of the pandemic posting conspiracy theory drivel about covid, the measures that were introduced to address it, and the vaccines, all from an unqualified point of view. A rational audience would not have listened but from the size of the followings that they developed it is clear that a lot of people were willing to swallow what they were excreting.

Unfortunately, misinformation about health matters can seriously harm or kill people as is happening at the moment with the various measles outbreaks that were once a thing of the past.

I’m curious as to what you have learned about how I think? As far as I am concerned, I assess what I am told by looking for and testing evidence and assessing the source of the same; if someone tells me that the covid vaccines caused enormous levels of miscarriage, I look at the data for live births in the UK and reflect upon my own experience within the communities in which I work and live. I also question why there was no 'signal' in the likes of VAERS and the UK Yellow Card scheme.

When someone tells me that it is impossible to make a vaccine for a viral disease, I immediately note that the very first vaccine – for smallpox – was for a viral disease.

When I read on the internet that nobody died of flu when covid was about, I check the relevant data as opposed to simply passing on incorrect information.

I don’t claim to be in any way superior for my approach. It's probably a little dull compared to the life of a conspiracy theorist who gets to know what the rest of us have missed. I’m a product of my work for the last 30+ years in which I look for and challenge evidence and rarely accept anything at face value.

I don’t accept that the covid vaccines were untried, untested and given a special license to get licensed approval. They were tried and tested and given emergency approval. I don’t accept that mRNA technology has been abandoned several times because of its dangers. It has been worked on for several years and has suffered setback along the way just like most other medical technologies.

I’m guessing from the description that ‘the guy’ you are talking about is Robert Malone (I’m not going to look back over a 500+ post thread, but would be happy for you to do so in your time). I’ve never said that he didn’t work on the technology – I challenged the antivaxxer myth that he invented it. I don’t believe that I have ever proffered an opinion upon or read anything about why he stopped working on it. I would be happy for you to check the position.