Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

1. Who’s suggested there isn’t a problem? There are obviously huge problems, both worldwide and domestically

2. but George Galloway is almost an irrelevance.

3. more carefully selected Labour candidate.

4. Funny thing, as Andy has already intimated, there was very little of the ‘Muslim bashing’ stuff on this thread prior to your return. and folk like you are a huge part of it.

1. I think you rA and TTR are talking about different problems, in fact I think you are talking about almost the exact OPPOSITE problem - If I may guess, The Rise of Islam v. The demonisation of Islam

2. I'm not so sure, my guess is that both major parties have seen the impact a decent orator (you must admit) with the right message has in terms of voter impact. (superficially or genuine) Pro-Palestine Labour GE candidates may see this positively impacting their vote, BUT supposing more 'Workers Party' candidates spring up in other Labour held/hoped for and Gaza-sympathetic wards, the impact could be as bad as Reform might be to the Conservatives. By the way I'm told the London Mayoral Election might go the way of pro-Palestine v. Anti-ULEZ which is interesting (to me)

3. 'More carefully selected', yes better wording this time!

4. I think better debate is had by letting TTR (and those at the opposite end of the argument I guess) have their say and then try to discuss rather than just describing it as 'Muslim bashing'. I can personally support either when their POV's are based on at least a bit of fact, (I'll point out the gov.uk report TTR referred to last week which I went to the trouble of studying and it did support his line of argument, but point out also the unfounded comment from elsewhere 'There are more bad 'Christians' than Muslims', a nice bit of 'Christian bashing' to throw in the mix) and support any retort when its objective and not filled with bile.

NB picking on your messages isn't me 'picking on you' personally, your messages just have more structure which enables structured reply is all

[ramAnag]

1. I think you rA and TTR are talking about different problems, in fact I think you are talking about almost the exact OPPOSITE problem - If I may guess, The Rise of Islam v. The demonisation of Islam

2. I'm not so sure, my guess is that both major parties have seen the impact a decent orator (you must admit) with the right message has in terms of voter impact. (superficially or genuine) Pro-Palestine Labour GE candidates may see this positively impacting their vote, BUT supposing more 'Workers Party' candidates spring up in other Labour held/hoped for and Gaza-sympathetic wards, the impact could be as bad as Reform might be to the Conservatives. By the way I'm told the London Mayoral Election might go the way of pro-Palestine v. Anti-ULEZ which is interesting (to me)

3. 'More carefully selected', yes better wording this time!

4. I think better debate is had by letting TTR (and those at the opposite end of the argument I guess) have their say and then try to discuss rather than just describing it as 'Muslim bashing'. I can personally support either when their POV's are based on at least a bit of fact, (I'll point out the gov.uk report TTR referred to last week which I went to the trouble of studying and it did support his line of argument, but point out also the unfounded comment from elsewhere 'There are more bad 'Christians' than Muslims', a nice bit of 'Christian bashing' to throw in the mix) and support any retort when its objective and not filled with bile.

NB picking on your messages isn't me 'picking on you' personally, your messages just have more structure which enables structured reply is all

Andy…it was you who first criticised the thread for developing into the ‘usual Islam bitchfest’…I was merely running with it.

I hadn’t for one moment thought you were ‘picking on me personally’.

[Andy_Faber]

Andy…it was you who first criticised the thread for developing into the ‘usual Islam bitchfest’…I was merely running with it.

I hadn’t for one moment thought you were ‘picking on me personally’.

That’s ok then, you were just a victim of good grammatical structure