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    I agree more people might chance their view generally on many things to do with football and behaviour if they had to ref a game.

    Kids games and dealing with difficult parents can be challenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    I agree more people might chance their view generally on many things to do with football and behaviour if they had to ref a game.

    Kids games and dealing with difficult parents can be challenging.
    Removing your shirt after scoring pales into insignificance when it comes to the dissent and abuse referees are regularly subjected to in EVERY professional football match that has been broadcast in recent times. If THAT is the problem that the shirt "bit" is intended to address, it is sadly misplaced and misses the point hugely. Adopt what rugby has been using for some time, and dissent would rapidly disappear from the professional game, followed very shortly afterwards by that in the lower leagues, including kids games.

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    Nice try folks....but you just know you are all wrong. 😊

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    Examples of some "unsportsmanlike conduct" are not limited to fighting/physical altercations, verbal abuse and/or harassing comments, and moral/ethical decisions that go against league rules or "endanger the safety of any individuals".

    My younger brother is often "reminded" not to engage with banter from spectators no matter what intimidation or objects comes his way as a keeper.
    He cannot mark his position guide aids by marking his goal area with his studs either.
    He is even required to place his water bottle in a safe & convenient position too & his Coach asks him not to spit onto the pitch during any defensive set ups.
    The Ref must have such matters drawn to their attention if any of the above cause issue, apparently in his U20 league level matches.

    Rightly or wrongly emotions can run high & unwittingly rules are broken obviously but in fairness the guidelines are reasonable 'tho examples of not being followed are plain to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monaco_Totty View Post
    Examples of some "unsportsmanlike conduct" are not limited to fighting/physical altercations, verbal abuse and/or harassing comments, and moral/ethical decisions that go against league rules or "endanger the safety of any individuals".

    My younger brother is often "reminded" not to engage with banter from spectators no matter what intimidation or objects comes his way as a keeper.
    He cannot mark his position guide aids by marking his goal area with his studs either.
    He is even required to place his water bottle in a safe & convenient position too & his Coach asks him not to spit onto the pitch during any defensive set ups.
    The Ref must have such matters drawn to their attention if any of the above cause issue, apparently in his U20 league level matches.

    Rightly or wrongly emotions can run high & unwittingly rules are broken obviously but in fairness the guidelines are reasonable 'tho examples of not being followed are plain to see.
    MT, its not just that examples where the rules aren't being followed are plain to see, it's ALL the time! I say again., the only part of the rule you detailed earlier that appear to be subject to action by the officials, are the removing of the shirt, there are just countless examples of where the remainder of that rule are ignored, and yet there is NO action/sanction on the part of match officials, and the very easily obtained examples I gave of LUFC goal celebration are just a very small drop in a very big ocean thereof.

    I'd love to see match officials given due respect (however good or bad they may have been, it's something that levels itself out over a season) but that rule either needs to be equitable applied, or it needs to be scrapped, and replaced with something that makes sense and can be applied by match officials. Better still, get in-game behaviour under control, as rugby has, control of some VERY big, VERY physically domineering individuals by someone of a relatively diminutive stature, simply because players know they will be sanctioned in-match, and their team WILL suffer if they transgress, no rocket science, just a challenge to the commercial powers that be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    MT, its not just that examples where the rules aren't being followed are plain to see, it's ALL the time! I say again., the only part of the rule you detailed earlier that appear to be subject to action by the officials, are the removing of the shirt, there are just countless examples of where the remainder of that rule are ignored, and yet there is NO action/sanction on the part of match officials, and the very easily obtained examples I gave of LUFC goal celebration are just a very small drop in a very big ocean thereof.

    I'd love to see match officials given due respect (however good or bad they may have been, it's something that levels itself out over a season) but that rule either needs to be equitable applied, or it needs to be scrapped, and replaced with something that makes sense and can be applied by match officials. Better still, get in-game behaviour under control, as rugby has, control of some VERY big, VERY physically domineering individuals by someone of a relatively diminutive stature, simply because players know they will be sanctioned in-match, and their team WILL suffer if they transgress, no rocket science, just a challenge to the commercial powers that be!
    BTW, the rejection of the "blue card" idea by the PL is a clear indication that they LIKE how their players behave at present, and how they can influence that behaviour, not the match officials and really don't want anything to be introduced to the in-game process that would damage their way of managing player behaviour. In comparison to what the clubs could and should do, sanctions against a player taking off their shirt isn't even the drop in the ocean I referred to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozwhites View Post
    Nice try folks....but you just know you are all wrong. ��
    Not saying anyone is right or wrong, expressing an opinion, regarding the stupidity of a rule that is ineffective and inconsistently applied, and none of that helps either players, clubs, or officials to manage the game performance, reduce the kind of disgusting abuses that players dish out to officials, nor how that translates into the behaviour of players in the lower/amateur leagues, when presumably that's what the "rule" in intended to do?

    Show me how issuing a yellow to a player who takes their shirt off having scored helps to address any of those issues, because so far, here and in the real world, I haven't seen any evidence.

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