O/T General Election called for on 4th July

[UlleyMiller]

Again some really well made points. I don’t think anyone should get away with paying the correct amount of tax. I’m just not comfortable with this if you are well off your a viable target whilst some and I say some have never worked or want to work and just milk the system.

I get that economically people see the two together, but the two are disparate items and both right now (IMHO) are falling short. I'm a firm believer in taxing more effectively (fairer, not hitting NMW earners hard, recognising the limits of a person's efforts vs. excessive wealth accumulation and 'generational wealth' and taxing that appropriately), but at the other end of the spectrum financially speaking, we should be operating a system that is both a proper help to those who hit hard times and a very limited option for those who can't be bothered to work. If we structured the latter better, people facing redundancy wouldn't be stressed about an immediate barrage of life changing scenarios, and people with awful disabilities wouldn't have to live week to week, whilst there would be no incentive for people to 'play the system' and sit on benefits long term.

[flourbasher]

we should be operating a system that is both a proper help to those who hit hard times and a very limited option for those who can't be bothered to work. If we structured the latter better, people facing redundancy wouldn't be stressed about an immediate barrage of life changing scenarios, and people with awful disabilities wouldn't have to live week to week, whilst there would be no incentive for people to 'play the system' and sit on benefits long term.

This is what they do in Danmark and Danish people don’t begrudge ‘looking after’ redundant people for 6 / 9 /18 months until they find another job.

No one gets their house repossessed or goes hungry.

This way means there’s no downward spiral into poverty.
The Danes see the bigger picture by helping people a little so that after a relatively short period they are not a burden anymore.

Their nation is meant to be one of the happiest
Hopefully not on 20 June though