O/T:- Election

[Old_pie]

All politicians should be made to carry out the Tories plan of 2 years National Service / Community work so that they do not grow up in a self-deluding bubble of grandeur and gain an understanding of the society they are expected to serve. Any that do will get my vote.

[slack_pie]

All politicians should be made to carry out the Tories plan of 2 years National Service / Community work so that they do not grow up in a self-deluding bubble of grandeur and gain an understanding of the society they are expected to serve. Any that do will get my vote.

Sorry but I strongly disagree. Regardless of whether the outcome of national service is positive or negative, the government should not be able to impose stuff like this on people. I don't want a bunch of suits in Westminster giving my son two options that he can choose from when he turns 18. I want him to be able to decide for himself and own the consequences.

[Old_pie]

Sorry but I strongly disagree. Regardless of whether the outcome of national service is positive or negative, the government should not be able to impose stuff like this on people. I don't want a bunch of suits in Westminster giving my son two options that he can choose from when he turns 18. I want him to be able to decide for himself and own the consequences.

You've completely read my post back-to-front and missed what I said. If you read it again you'll see that if anyone should go on the scheme it is the politicians themselves!

[slack_pie]

You've completely read my post back-to-front and missed what I said. If you read it again you'll see that if anyone should go on the scheme it is the politicians themselves!

Apologies, by 'carry out' I thought you meant 'implement'. And I agree

[Elite_Pie]

Sorry but I strongly disagree. Regardless of whether the outcome of national service is positive or negative, the government should not be able to impose stuff like this on people. I don't want a bunch of suits in Westminster giving my son two options that he can choose from when he turns 18. I want him to be able to decide for himself and own the consequences.

This National Service plan is sheer lunacy from a government that has completely lost the plot. I can only think it's aimed at the gammons, but most of them have buggered off to Reform UK long ago. It will go down like a lead balloon among younger voters, where the Tories have very little support anyway. It will be a big boost to Labour without them having to lift a finger!

[slack_pie]

This National Service plan is sheer lunacy from a government that has completely lost the plot. I can only think it's aimed at the gammons, but most of them have buggered off to Reform UK long ago. It will go down like a lead balloon among younger voters, where the Tories have very little support anyway. It will be a big boost to Labour without them having to lift a finger!

It does seem very misguided and will likely be the last nail in the Tories' coffin for this election. As you said, the target audience for such policies drifted towards Reform and other similar parties long ago.

For what it's worth, I do think there is an attitude problem in some young people, and that it's generally getting worse over time, to the detriment of society. But the answer isn't ill-advised government policies that take away your freedom and autonomy. Better parenting would be a good start, but that's not something you can legislate for.

[Lullapie]

This National Service plan is sheer lunacy from a government that has completely lost the plot. I can only think it's aimed at the gammons, but most of them have buggered off to Reform UK long ago. It will go down like a lead balloon among younger voters, where the Tories have very little support anyway. It will be a big boost to Labour without them having to lift a finger!

With the Tories having little or no support with the young voter - what do they have to lose? I personally have no problem with National Service if the person is under 18 years of age and doesn't have a job. What has the State to lose?

I also find it humorous when people talk about it being a 'right-wing' doctrine to have National Service, when many left-wing, socialist countries currently have it in place. See below:

Algeria
Angola
Argentina
Armenia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Belarus
Belize
Benin
Bhutan
Bolivia
Brazil
Cambodia
Cape Verde/Cabo Verde
Chad
Chile
China
Colombia
Congo (Democratic Republic of)
Cuba
Cyprus
Denmark
Egypt
El Salvador
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Finland
Georgia
Greece
Guatemala
Guinea-Bissau
Indonesia
Iran
Israel
Ivory Coast/Cote d'Ivoire
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lithuania
Mali
Mexico
Moldova
Mongolia
Morocco
Mozambique
Myanmar(Burma)
Niger
North Korea
Norway
Paraguay
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Russia
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Senegal
Singapore
Slovakia
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South Korea
South Sudan
Spain
Sudan
Sweden
Switzerland
Syria
Taiwan
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Tanzania
Thailand
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Tunisi
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Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United States
Uruguay
Uzbekistan
Venezuela
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