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  1. #81
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    Some irony in conspiracy theorists telling others the extent to which their thoughts are controlled by msm whilst writing using figures and of speech and patterns of language that all sound very similar to each other. Bit like all the far right people referring to "leftard sheeple" without the slightest awareness of the irony therein. Bloody gammons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    Farage is a disrupter and disruption in politics is a good thing we need more of it to address the the failure of a two party system that enables a professional political class to be bred by external organisations to push an agenda that does not benefit the people. This is not just a UK problem it can be seen everywhere just look at the recent Mexican elections as an example of corruption within the overall system.
    Farage is a liar. Johnson is/was a liar. Trump is a liar. What do they have in common? They "disrupt". Sunak is a liar, continuing the tradition of the right, but doesn't have the populist connection of the others. His problem is that he's not white.

    I was recently reading of a YouGov poll from early 2023. The survey was around what Brits thought the living standards should be of people living on benefits, minimum wage and average earnings.

    24% believed that these groups should not be able to pay their electricity, gas or water bills;

    26% thought that there was no need for them to be able to afford food that allowed them and their families to eat a healthy and balanced diet;

    43% believed that a home internet connection was not warranted for those relying on the state.

    Do these views represent you?

    In April Sunk warned against "over-medicalising the everyday worries and challenges of life" and threatened to withdraw some benefit payments altogether. According to Sunk illness is, apparently, a "lifestyle choice" Does this attempt to appeal to the baser instincts of the 'populist' demography qualify him as a "disrupter"?

    Farage and other extremists cynically ply the myths and tropes which appeal to the populists and which are given widespread coverage in the right-wing print and social media.

    There is much that is wrong with this country. Hopefully a start might be made on putting right some of these failings after the election. But I am not optimistic; the result will be a temporary setback for the establishment, not a long-term radical solution.

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    That's a bit extremist Giddy,well a lot extremist really.Do you SERIOSLY believe all that?

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    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygiddypant View Post
    Farage is a liar. Johnson is/was a liar. Trump is a liar. What do they have in common? They "disrupt". Sunak is a liar, continuing the tradition of the right, but doesn't have the populist connection of the others. His problem is that he's not white.

    I was recently reading of a YouGov poll from early 2023. The survey was around what Brits thought the living standards should be of people living on benefits, minimum wage and average earnings.

    24% believed that these groups should not be able to pay their electricity, gas or water bills;

    26% thought that there was no need for them to be able to afford food that allowed them and their families to eat a healthy and balanced diet;

    43% believed that a home internet connection was not warranted for those relying on the state.

    Do these views represent you?

    In April Sunk warned against "over-medicalising the everyday worries and challenges of life" and threatened to withdraw some benefit payments altogether. According to Sunk illness is, apparently, a "lifestyle choice" Does this attempt to appeal to the baser instincts of the 'populist' demography qualify him as a "disrupter"?

    Farage and other extremists cynically ply the myths and tropes which appeal to the populists and which are given widespread coverage in the right-wing print and social media.

    There is much that is wrong with this country. Hopefully a start might be made on putting right some of these failings after the election. But I am not optimistic; the result will be a temporary setback for the establishment, not a long-term radical solution.
    Agree with a lot of that and I’ll add STARMER IS A LIER TOO. They all are only a fool would believe any politician.
    Self serving parasites.

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    Liar not lier bloody phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UlleyMiller View Post
    It's almost comical to witness you go round in these weird circles. Almost...
    Excellent. You clearly need cheering up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Optimist View Post
    Excellent. You clearly need cheering up.
    July 5th will cheer me up. 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by UlleyMiller View Post
    I couldn't think of a person outside Russia who could be closer to instigating a widescale nuclear war than Trump...
    I can. The person who has just authorised the use of US weapons on Russian soil for the first time - Obama's puppet...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy770l9llnzo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Optimist View Post
    I can. The person who has just authorised the use of US weapons on Russian soil for the first time - Obama's puppet...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy770l9llnzo
    Clutching at straws again pal.

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