Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

Without wanting to kick off last weeks ruckus again, my comment about deference to elders definitely wouldn't apply to 'betters' (people in high public or private office) these days. I'm prepared to give elders benefit of the doubt that they're good people, 'betters', including politicians, I assume to be as you describe, and thats a shame for the few who aren't

Odd why you should give someone the benefit of the doubt purely because of age, personally I give anyone the benefit of the doubt, trouble is most **** it up by their words or deeds.

I would take issue that the majority of politicians are scum or only in it for themselves, we see only a small sample, we hardly ever hear of those that are good, look after their constituents and are genuinely motivated to serve the country.

But then by and large the public aren't enamoured with those that do have principles and follow them, Corbyn is a good example, whilst one can take odds with some of his views, he is at least consistent and by all accounts is a good constituency MP, trouble is those who disagree with his world view don't take this into account. His leadership skills were lacking, but then you come to an age old problem, these days quiet competent leaders are overlooked or scorned by the public at large who want charisma, promises that can't be kept and fairy tales about life - hence Farage's attraction to some - good communication skills no substance and certainly self serving.

[Andy_Faber]

Odd why you should give someone the benefit of the doubt purely because of age, personally I give anyone the benefit of the doubt, trouble is most **** it up by their words or deeds.

I would take issue that the majority of politicians are scum or only in it for themselves, we see only a small sample, we hardly ever hear of those that are good, look after their constituents and are genuinely motivated to serve the country.

But then by and large the public aren't enamoured with those that do have principles and follow them, Corbyn is a good example, whilst one can take odds with some of his views, he is at least consistent and by all accounts is a good constituency MP, trouble is those who disagree with his world view don't take this into account. His leadership skills were lacking, but then you come to an age old problem, these days quiet competent leaders are overlooked or scorned by the public at large who want charisma, promises that can't be kept and fairy tales about life - hence Farage's attraction to some - good communication skills no substance and certainly self serving.

you may be surprised to find I agree with what you say about Corbyn (purely from what I've read) although your own words suggest that he would have been better fighting hard for his own constituency and aggitating for specific causes rather than becoming leader

My comment wasn't intended to be just, or even mainly, about politicians, few of which I've come across, more the 'captains of industry', many of which don't wear their 'seniority' and associated wealth particularly well and IMO could be replaced in their roles by any one of hundreds of less fortunate folk

[swaledale]

you may be surprised to find I agree with what you say about Corbyn (purely from what I've read) although your own words suggest that he would have been better fighting hard for his own constituency and aggitating for specific causes rather than becoming leader

My comment wasn't intended to be just, or even mainly, about politicians, few of which I've come across, more the 'captains of industry', many of which don't wear their 'seniority' and associated wealth particularly well and IMO could be replaced in their roles by any one of hundreds of less fortunate folk

You'll be even more surprised to learn I agree with most of this!