Ex-Notts Player Signs For...

[the_anticlough]

Ah our ‘Lucky Dip’ recruitment process as I call it, but we have a more advanced system the ‘pin a tail on a donkey’ system used to sign Morias. Or close our eyes, hands over ears and the problem will go away system for our back line coming into League 2.

I've got more time for your posts about recruitment than I had at the start of the year.
We can be sure that there's a lot thinking behind the strategy, but let's hope they're learning the lessons along the way.
Acquisitions like Gosling can only be evaluated on the results. And there are always options. When we go for the likes of Gosling, Arter, Tipton, Morais, and they fail, they have to go down on the wrong side of the balance sheet for recruitment.

I'm sure every fan wants all at the club to be accountable, even if they have been with the bros from the start. Montague still has a lot of credit in the bank, but the crucial Head Coach hire is still a 'wait and see' situation. We're all behind them and their success, but the model will only work if there's accountability all round.

[slack_pie]

I've got more time for your posts about recruitment than I had at the start of the year.
We can be sure that there's a lot thinking behind the strategy, but let's hope they're learning the lessons along the way.
Acquisitions like Gosling can only be evaluated on the results. And there are always options. When we go for the likes of Gosling, Arter, Tipton, Morais, and they fail, they have to go down on the wrong side of the balance sheet for recruitment.

I'm sure every fan wants all at the club to be accountable, even if they have been with the bros from the start. Montague still has a lot of credit in the bank, but the crucial Head Coach hire is still a 'wait and see' situation. We're all behind them and their success, but the model will only work if there's accountability all round.

No club gets recruitment right all the time. Yes, we've dropped a few clangers, but the fact is our recruitment hasn't been this good in many years.

I agree that the whole recruitment policy is underpinned by the head coach, and the jury is still very much out on that one. It's either a masterstroke or a somewhat arrogant attempt to go against conventional wisdom. Time will tell, but I trust the bros long-term strategy of incremental improvement on and off the pitch to play out as planned. For all their ideological tunnel vision, they've shown that they can be ruthless and proactive when needed. They've also shown that they can learn from mistakes, as our two signings so far have shown.

I believe we're in good hands.

[upthemaggies]

No club gets recruitment right all the time. Yes, we've dropped a few clangers, but the fact is our recruitment hasn't been this good in many years.

I agree that the whole recruitment policy is underpinned by the head coach, and the jury is still very much out on that one. It's either a masterstroke or a somewhat arrogant attempt to go against conventional wisdom. Time will tell....

Man Utd have shown that you can spend more money on players than anybody else over several seasons, but if you don't have the right man in charge then you will still fail to reach your target.
The season before last I was fed up of hearing Spurs fans griping, now they seem relatively content despite losing Kane because they have a manager they can all get behind.
We literally need Maynard to be the next Allardyce, there's no other example of a Notts manager starting so badly and coming good. This game being what it is, you can't rule that out with certainty, but I think we got very lucky with LW and asking for lightning to strike twice in quick succession is a big ask of the gods.

[SwalePie]

Man Utd have shown that you can spend more money on players than anybody else over several seasons, but if you don't have the right man in charge then you will still fail to reach your target.
The season before last I was fed up of hearing Spurs fans griping, now they seem relatively content despite losing Kane because they have a manager they can all get behind.
We literally need Maynard to be the next Allardyce, there's no other example of a Notts manager starting so badly and coming good. This game being what it is, you can't rule that out with certainty, but I think we got very lucky with LW and asking for lightning to strike twice in quick succession is a big ask of the gods.

Agree mostly but I'm not sure we 'got lucky' with Luke Williams. He was selected for the job after all. We can't always just be lucky when things go right and incompetent when they go wrong.

[upthemaggies]

Agree mostly but I'm not sure we 'got lucky' with Luke Williams. He was selected for the job after all. We can't always just be lucky when things go right and incompetent when they go wrong.

LW succeeded, I think, for reasons they were not expecting, that he had the personality to transcend the restrictions placed upon him and man-manage and inspire the fans as well as the players as if he was a manager in the traditional sense, not just seamlessly filling a space as a cloned jigsaw piece just to hold some corner section together whilst the owners and the recruitment team set about completing the rest of the picture all by themselves.

That the whole thing fell apart once LW was linked and then left for another club revealed the model for what it was and had been since the owners arrived, not adequate to get out of tier 5 (with Ardley and then Burch both failing) and not adequate to challenge in L2 (once LW had left). In that sense the club has fallen short at every step of the current owners reign other than during the period LW was here. LW made all of the difference between success and being left frustrated at missing out.

Clearly they've now had a re-think in terms of recruitment of playing staff, opting for experience. Whether or not they will need to extend the more traditional approach to recruitment to the point of bringing in an experienced manager, or at least one who's played at a professional level, depends on Maynard being able to work with decent L2 standard players (which he hasn't done before) as well as having the nous to navigate the business end of the season and get a promotion challenge over the line (also something he has no prior experience of).

[SwalePie]

LW succeeded, I think, for reasons they were not expecting, that he had the personality to transcend the restrictions placed upon him and man-manage and inspire the fans as well as the players as if he was a manager in the traditional sense, not just seamlessly filling a space as a cloned jigsaw piece just to hold some corner section together whilst the owners and the recruitment team set about completing the rest of the picture all by themselves.

That the whole thing fell apart once LW was linked and then left for another club revealed the model for what it was and had been since the owners arrived, not adequate to get out of tier 5 (with Ardley and then Burch both failing) and not adequate to challenge in L2 (once LW had left). In that sense the club has fallen short at every step of the current owners reign other than during the period LW was here. LW made all of the difference between success and being left frustrated at missing out.

Clearly they've now had a re-think in terms of recruitment of playing staff, opting for experience. Whether or not they will need to extend the more traditional approach to recruitment to the point of bringing in an experienced manager, or at least one who's played at a professional level, depends on Maynard being able to work with decent L2 standard players (which he hasn't done before) as well as having the nous to navigate the business end of the season and get a promotion challenge over the line (also something he has no prior experience of).

Interesting opinions as always UTM. Obviously none of us know, in reality, what decisions are or were made or how and based on what. Let's hope the model, whether changed or not, delivers success in the coming season.

[ThaiPie]

LW succeeded, I think, for reasons they were not expecting, that he had the personality to transcend the restrictions placed upon him and man-manage and inspire the fans as well as the players as if he was a manager in the traditional sense, not just seamlessly filling a space as a cloned jigsaw piece just to hold some corner section together whilst the owners and the recruitment team set about completing the rest of the picture all by themselves.

That the whole thing fell apart once LW was linked and then left for another club revealed the model for what it was and had been since the owners arrived, not adequate to get out of tier 5 (with Ardley and then Burch both failing) and not adequate to challenge in L2 (once LW had left). In that sense the club has fallen short at every step of the current owners reign other than during the period LW was here. LW made all of the difference between success and being left frustrated at missing out.

Clearly they've now had a re-think in terms of recruitment of playing staff, opting for experience. Whether or not they will need to extend the more traditional approach to recruitment to the point of bringing in an experienced manager, or at least one who's played at a professional level, depends on Maynard being able to work with decent L2 standard players (which he hasn't done before) as well as having the nous to navigate the business end of the season and get a promotion challenge over the line (also something he has no prior experience of).

What the (swear word) are you talking about Upthemaggies.
When the Reedtz brothers arrived 26th July 2019, Notts County had just been relegated out of the football league for the first time in their history. They also were under a winding up order and couldn't sign players.
The Reedtz brothers stated "our ambition is to bring Notts County back to the Football League as soon as possible"

Listening to you trying to rewrite history and claim the current owners just happened to get Lucky with LW, is the biggest load of (mild swear word - part of male anatomy), ever!

In case you hadn't noticed, they are rebuilding the club on and off the pitch.

We have a (swear word) awesome club and I am surprised you want to look for a black cloud in every silver lining.

[slack_pie]

LW succeeded, I think, for reasons they were not expecting, that he had the personality to transcend the restrictions placed upon him and man-manage and inspire the fans as well as the players as if he was a manager in the traditional sense, not just seamlessly filling a space as a cloned jigsaw piece just to hold some corner section together whilst the owners and the recruitment team set about completing the rest of the picture all by themselves.

That the whole thing fell apart once LW was linked and then left for another club revealed the model for what it was and had been since the owners arrived, not adequate to get out of tier 5 (with Ardley and then Burch both failing) and not adequate to challenge in L2 (once LW had left). In that sense the club has fallen short at every step of the current owners reign other than during the period LW was here. LW made all of the difference between success and being left frustrated at missing out.

Clearly they've now had a re-think in terms of recruitment of playing staff, opting for experience. Whether or not they will need to extend the more traditional approach to recruitment to the point of bringing in an experienced manager, or at least one who's played at a professional level, depends on Maynard being able to work with decent L2 standard players (which he hasn't done before) as well as having the nous to navigate the business end of the season and get a promotion challenge over the line (also something he has no prior experience of).

LW definitely had that missing ingredient that our previous coaches didn't - personality and the ability to inspire players and fans alike. Ardley couldn't do that, nor could Birchnall, and I don't think Maynard seems the type either. Whether or not we can be successful without that missing ingredient remains to be seen, but it seems to me that to gain a true edge over promotion rivals and get over the line, you need someone a bit special to lead the group.

[Hoppie]

Ed Francis to Exeter in L1 🧐

[Old_pie]

Agree mostly but I'm not sure we 'got lucky' with Luke Williams. He was selected for the job after all. We can't always just be lucky when things go right and incompetent when they go wrong.

He was a good appointment but surely he was above expectations?